Topic: Airteq - Artinoise Recorder (To A Wild Rose)

Here I'm starting to set up my own INIT templates for use with the Re.corder

I give you the Overblown Flute ...


https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...r%2001.mp3


Like the real tenor recorder softer breath equals a downturn in pitch, but that might add to the realism ???


This was created on PC in Cubase using: re.corder, MIDI Bridge, loopMIDI, Airteq and Pianoteq ...

Re: Airteq - Artinoise Recorder (To A Wild Rose)

DEZ wrote:

Here I'm starting to set up my own INIT templates for use with the Re.corder

I give you the Overblown Flute ...


https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...r%2001.mp3


Like the real tenor recorder softer breath equals a downturn in pitch, but that might add to the realism ???


This was created on PC in Cubase using: re.corder, MIDI Bridge, loopMIDI, Airteq and Pianoteq ...


Wow ! You brought that instrument to life, and a nice, kind of warm singing tone.

Your air control kept the pitch nicely centered during those soft passages - the way you breathed life into the piece was very impressive.
Realism? Yes, your recording sounds convincingly like a real, physical flute. You made every single note feel like a conversation.

Well done!

Best wishes,

Stig

Re: Airteq - Artinoise Recorder (To A Wild Rose)

Using the same settings as above, I've brightened it, transposed it up one octave as well as altered the attack to 'better' mimic the soprano recorder ...


https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...r%2002.mp3

Re: Airteq - Artinoise Recorder (To A Wild Rose)

DEZ wrote:

Using the same settings as above, I've brightened it, transposed it up one octave as well as altered the attack to 'better' mimic the soprano recorder ...


https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...r%2002.mp3

Good soprano recorder

Bravo DEZ !  It actually sounds like a soprano recorder. Well done again. I’m suprised how well you can work on this flute project.

Have to tell you why my interest ….

I’m especially interested because I played a lot of soprano recorder with students when I was a teacher. (In Finland, we have made it possible for all children and young people to have a hobby that they enjoy in connection with the school day, after schooldays, and that is free of charge, is based on the students’ own wishes and can be about everything from sports and coding to visual arts and cooking, music…. ) after school. So I had the soprano recorder group. They got to perform a lot, also on the radio
Thank you DEZ. What will be next…..?

Best wishes,

Stig

Re: Airteq - Artinoise Recorder (To A Wild Rose)

Still using the same settings as originally above, now transposed one octave down to great bass in C


https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...r%2003.mp3



Note: If I were to synthesise the 'recorder' on synth I would choose the Triangle Wave. The options on Airteq seem to be open flue - flute (mostly sine wave), stopped flue (square wave) to get something in between I suppose we would have to be able to change the shape of the pipe from straight to conical I think? This would also alter the harmonicity, ie the overblow would not be the octave. Something like one sees on the Clarinet.

I didn't make mention of the principal or string offering as these are more saw wave - too many harmonics. If we can't alter the shape, then how about adding a filter so we can LP, HP, BandP the harmonics for effect ???

For those in the know - DO correct me !

Re: Airteq - Artinoise Recorder (To A Wild Rose)

DEZ wrote:

Still using the same settings as originally above, now transposed one octave down to great bass in C


https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...r%2003.mp3



Note: If I were to synthesise the 'recorder' on synth I would choose the Triangle Wave. The options on Airteq seem to be open flue - flute (mostly sine wave), stopped flue (square wave) to get something in between I suppose we would have to be able to change the shape of the pipe from straight to conical I think? This would also alter the harmonicity, ie the overblow would not be the octave. Something like one sees on the Clarinet.

I didn't make mention of the principal or string offering as these are more saw wave - too many harmonics. If we can't alter the shape, then how about adding a filter so we can LP, HP, BandP the harmonics for effect ???

For those in the know - DO correct me !


Beautiful!!!   Would be nice to try all these 3 flutes in a 3 - voice piece for recorders and soft piano accompaniment.

Thank you DEZ.

Best wishes,

Stig

Last edited by Pianoteqenthusiast (03-10-2026 23:45)

Re: Airteq - Artinoise Recorder (To A Wild Rose)

In reality, the different pipes in Airteq or Organteq don't produce simple waves like those from synthesizers, but rather complex ones like the instruments they are modeled after, and from the very start, they respond to air pressure with different results (which, by the way, the flute ones are roughly between a sine and a triangle wave, depending on the air pressure).

Filters are standard components in the building kit of traditional electronic instruments, but physical modeling synthesizers are a completely different world. Airteq seems to lean toward the electronic side with the inclusion of LFOs and envelopes, but without altering the organic, natural character of the underlying physics, which is precisely what filters would do, and that’s why they aren't there (or so it seems to me, at least).

A classic technique in analog synthesis, such as modulating a filter with velocity, for example, is the traditional way to achieve variety and expressiveness. However, a synthesizer like Airteq already has an expressive response to varying air pressure; it doesn't need filters, which would ultimately go against its very nature (besides putting an even heavier load on the CPU, which already has to work hard enough with Airteq just as it is).

PS: Oh, and congrats on the audio tracks! You really know your way around the Re.corder! Let's see if I can get around to doing something testing out the flutes like you guys did, although I'd use a breath controller and a keyboard (I'm a keyboard player, what can I do). Happy tweaking!!

DEZ wrote:

Still using the same settings as originally above, now transposed one octave down to great bass in C


https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...r%2003.mp3



Note: If I were to synthesise the 'recorder' on synth I would choose the Triangle Wave. The options on Airteq seem to be open flue - flute (mostly sine wave), stopped flue (square wave) to get something in between I suppose we would have to be able to change the shape of the pipe from straight to conical I think? This would also alter the harmonicity, ie the overblow would not be the octave. Something like one sees on the Clarinet.

I didn't make mention of the principal or string offering as these are more saw wave - too many harmonics. If we can't alter the shape, then how about adding a filter so we can LP, HP, BandP the harmonics for effect ???

For those in the know - DO correct me !

Last edited by jmanrique (Today 12:38)

Re: Airteq - Artinoise Recorder (To A Wild Rose)

very cool DEZ, really shows the capabilities of this new instrument

Re: Airteq - Artinoise Recorder (To A Wild Rose)

budo wrote:

very cool DEZ, really shows the capabilities of this new instrument

Yes it's great ... so far managed to get a bass drum, toms, tambourine, trumpet, recorder, weird grumbles and screeches out of it as well as a xylophone, plucked violin.

I would still like to be able to change the pipe diameter and/or make it conical though. Also the ADSR could be more interesting with control over how the shape transitions from Zero to A to D to S to R to Zero.

EG

Flute & Stopped Flute (one octave lower)

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/82co0wcqyg43gjagdtgsn/Flute.jpg?rlkey=bxx8x6oivgw3u9hmz52tlu96t&st=7io9nigh&raw=1  https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/dh0slph24jkr47zh1y6v8/Stopped-FLUTE.jpg?rlkey=2cszo64jk2svi2shp0grng40u&st=7jki5ry5&raw=1

But let's not stop there (excuse the pun) ... the same conical / stopped can be applied to a variable diameter, ie principals / strings

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/84g3f7umr6e6ofx6wicbp/Stopped-STRING.jpg?rlkey=55fvg4ghz9owpveo8kyioqfoa&st=pif8fmwn&raw=1

Let's truly be innovators !!!