Topic: Shigeru Kawai dropped
Thank you so much Modartt and all. Off to demo now!!!
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Wow, currently just listening to the audio demos admittedly but this sounds like it really is the best yet. I wasn't expecting that.
Maybe the little stereo smartphone speakers aren't the most revealing source but here it sounds completely real!
The space and airy treble clarity, the attack tone it's like the engine has been properly lifted to another level.
I suppose I should have reserved judgment for playing the thing myself, however all the audio demos sound brilliant, in the best sense!
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As you suggested, I tried the new Kawai and I like it way better than the internal sounds in my new CA 701. It definitely sounds richer and more alive. I was blown away. I love my new Kawai piano. The action is remarkable. It gives me much better control, is more sensitive to dynamics, etc. But PTQ is incomparable, and indispensable to me.
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BarbaraRB wrote:
As you suggested, I tried the new Kawai and I like it way better than the internal sounds in my new CA 701. It definitely sounds richer and more alive. I was blown away. I love my new Kawai piano. The action is remarkable. It gives me much better control, is more sensitive to dynamics, etc. But PTQ is incomparable, and indispensable to me.
This I'm pretty sure is going to be my favourite.
I've just uploaded an alternative FXP for this piano for a more obvious less subtle string pad sound. A bit more synth like, yet with more life in the sound.
The original preset is excellent, this is just an alternative edit some might like.
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just puchased i play with it. Magical
Better than a Steinway : Bell Steinway Sound with Bosendorfer power, and CFX PPP
Improvement in high notes and attack.
My favorite with Vi labs Modern D. i will play all the night with it.
I just change hammer noise 1 to 1.30 and it's perfect, and instrument condition to 0.10
bravo
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The demo mp3 was reduced.
This tells me they are updating fof new mp3 files....
Maybe more surprises are coming.
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Olivier W wrote:
just puchased i play with it. Magical
Better than a Steinway : Bell Steinway Sound with Bosendorfer power, and CFX PPP
Improvement in high notes and attack.
My favorite with Vi labs Modern D. i will play all the night with it.
I just change hammer noise 1 to 1.30 and it's perfect, and instrument condition to 0.10
bravo
Please on witch preset do you make these modifications. My problem on pianoteq is the number of preset for each piano. I would like a standard preset for each piano with all same paramètres. Now Room or micro parameters are not the same for every Warm preset or for every player preset. It is very difficult for me to compare juste the pianos I mean.
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YvesTh wrote:
Please on witch preset do you make these modifications. My problem on pianoteq is the number of preset for each piano. I would like a standard preset for each piano with all same paramètres. Now Room or micro parameters are not the same for every Warm preset or for every player preset. It is very difficult for me to compare juste the pianos I mean.
Yves, we could indeed make (our) life simpler and use for example the same mic settings for the "Warm" preset of all instruments. The problem is that it is usually not optimal: a given configuration which works well a piano does not necessarily work well for another piano. The same issue happens in real life. Why is it so? Simply because the acoustic fields generated by two different pianos are different. For that reason, for each instrument, we spend quite a lot of time for finding nice sounding mic settings. Something similar happens with the other parameters, and even the effects. That's (acoustic) life!
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If you will not combine with sampled attack, but use just pianoteq alone for this model, this says something very positive.
Olivier W wrote:
just puchased i play with it. Magical
Better than a Steinway : Bell Steinway Sound with Bosendorfer power, and CFX PPP
Improvement in high notes and attack.
My favorite with Vi labs Modern D. i will play all the night with it.
I just change hammer noise 1 to 1.30 and it's perfect, and instrument condition to 0.10
bravo
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Pianoworld reaction:
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YvesTh wrote:
Olivier W wrote:just puchased i play with it. Magical
Better than a Steinway : Bell Steinway Sound with Bosendorfer power, and CFX PPP
Improvement in high notes and attack.
My favorite with Vi labs Modern D. i will play all the night with it.
I just change hammer noise 1 to 1.30 and it's perfect, and instrument condition to 0.10
bravo
Please on witch preset do you make these modifications. My problem on pianoteq is the number of preset for each piano. I would like a standard preset for each piano with all same paramètres. Now Room or micro parameters are not the same for every Warm preset or for every player preset. It is very difficult for me to compare juste the pianos I mean.
Shigeru Warm preset
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Beto-Music wrote:
If uou will not combine with sampled attack, but use just pianoteq alone for this model, this says something very positive.
Olivier W wrote:just puchased i play with it. Magical
Better than a Steinway : Bell Steinway Sound with Bosendorfer power, and CFX PPP
Improvement in high notes and attack.
My favorite with Vi labs Modern D. i will play all the night with it.
I just change hammer noise 1 to 1.30 and it's perfect, and instrument condition to 0.10
bravo
And i avoid to use the PTQ limiter : i change the volume and FFF are more natural. And i use LOGIC 11 limiter instead
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Philippe Guillaume wrote:
YvesTh wrote:Please on witch preset do you make these modifications. My problem on pianoteq is the number of preset for each piano. I would like a standard preset for each piano with all same paramètres. Now Room or micro parameters are not the same for every Warm preset or for every player preset. It is very difficult for me to compare juste the pianos I mean.
Yves, we could indeed make (our) life simpler and use for example the same mic settings for the "Warm" preset of all instruments. The problem is that it is usually not optimal: a given configuration which works well a piano does not necessarily work well for another piano. The same issue happens in real life. Why is it so? Simply because the acoustic fields generated by two different pianos are different. For that reason, for each instrument, we spend quite a lot of time for finding nice sounding mic settings. Something similar happens with the other parameters, and even the effects. That's (acoustic) life!
Thank you for this enlightening answer. I don't undersand why the order of the presets is different for each piano? It would be interesting to be able to easily compare all the ‘Warm", all the ‘player’ etc...
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Olivier W wrote:
YvesTh wrote:Olivier W wrote:just puchased i play with it. Magical
Better than a Steinway : Bell Steinway Sound with Bosendorfer power, and CFX PPP
Improvement in high notes and attack.
My favorite with Vi labs Modern D. i will play all the night with it.
I just change hammer noise 1 to 1.30 and it's perfect, and instrument condition to 0.10
bravo
Please on witch preset do you make these modifications. My problem on pianoteq is the number of preset for each piano. I would like a standard preset for each piano with all same paramètres. Now Room or micro parameters are not the same for every Warm preset or for every player preset. It is very difficult for me to compare juste the pianos I mean.
Shigeru Warm preset
Thank you
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trying to access the modartt´s site and my user area but it seems to be jammed (forum is obviously working, though). anyone else corroborates?
curious about this one. the Bosendorfer almost ruined PTQ for me, as for a long while I could only play the Bosendorfer... all other models sounded just too meh....
all the best,
Miguel.
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Olivier, thanks for the tips with settings. I am in love with the particular piano. Beautiful sound. I love all the pianos....I can't pick a favorite but they keep raising the bar. Modartt thank you!
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Philippe Guillaume wrote:
YvesTh wrote:Please on witch preset do you make these modifications. My problem on pianoteq is the number of preset for each piano. I would like a standard preset for each piano with all same paramètres. Now Room or micro parameters are not the same for every Warm preset or for every player preset. It is very difficult for me to compare juste the pianos I mean.
Yves, we could indeed make (our) life simpler and use for example the same mic settings for the "Warm" preset of all instruments. The problem is that it is usually not optimal: a given configuration which works well a piano does not necessarily work well for another piano. The same issue happens in real life. Why is it so? Simply because the acoustic fields generated by two different pianos are different. For that reason, for each instrument, we spend quite a lot of time for finding nice sounding mic settings. Something similar happens with the other parameters, and even the effects. That's (acoustic) life!
The work you do on the presets is brilliant.
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mqbernardo wrote:
trying to access the modartt´s site and my user area but it seems to be jammed (forum is obviously working, though). anyone else corroborates?
curious about this one. the Bosendorfer almost ruined PTQ for me, as for a long while I could only play the Bosendorfer... all other models sounded just too meh....
all the best,
Miguel.
I've been playing the Bosendorfer nonstop but this one is equally glorious and totally different. Now I needfour hands.
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Now testing..The Kawai rivals(even maybe surpasses) Boesendorfer.
Being with Pianoteq since version 5. Admittedly as lot to be desired back then..,
Now, with Pianoteq version8, thousand nautical miles away..sails in very deep waters now. Bordering(the Kawai)
indistinguishable from the real thing(not referring to static samples mindyou)
To all those obsessive individuals suffering from some mental disorder still hear metalic&synthetic sounds! (we read that a lot in various pathetic forums..)
Considering the nature of the Pianoteq(being sort of synth), it 'allows' for extreme settings if the human input is moronic.
Get our ears examined, or buy a decent/expensive DP, tame your velocity curves reaching FFs&FFFs!!
(FFF! Who on Earth should/would play like that?)
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Wow! I posted this over on PianoTell (created because PianoWorld is now overrun with ads), but thought I'd share here as well:
Just wow! I played around with the trial a little and had a blast!
There are two pleasant surprises for me.
1. Other than the usual presets, there's a new one called Ryuyo. Whatever it is, I love it! I found the description here:
It's an absolute blast.
2. The second surprise is that there is a Shigeru Kawai SK-EX with Strings Pad! I have never seen that before in Pianoteq. It's very tastefully done and a ton of fun! Exactly what I would want from a Strings Pad... I've complained multiple times about not having a Strings layer in Pianoteq, so color me completely surprised to actually see this materialize!
The SK-EX is my new favorite and it finally displaces the NY Steinway D for me.
I've got a problem now... I've got some hard thinking to do about which instrument I'm going to pursue for the recital. What a nice problem to have!
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navindra wrote:
Other than the usual presets, there's a new one called Ryuyo.
Most of the instruments have one preset that is named after the instrument itself: NY Steinway Model D or Bösendorfer 280VC or Ant. Petrof 275. I’d guess Shigeru Kawai SK-EX Ryuyo is that preset for this instrument.