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Topic: Choice of USB audio interface

Hi Organteq users,

using actually a Behringer U-Phoria UMC404HD as USB audio interface, I get some kind of cracks when I play many stops together and, also, the tutti of the organs. I have tried many settings of buffer size from 256 to 1024 samples. But, in any cases, I get this noise. Is there anybody using this same audio interface without trouble or, which USB audio interface do you use without this problem, even with many stops together.

Thank you for any help.

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Re: Choice of USB audio interface

Your CPU is more likely the gating factor than your interface.  I do get some crackling, even at higher buffers, but lowering your polyphony, sample rate, or bit rate and being careful of exactly what stop combos you choose can help.

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Re: Choice of USB audio interface

Bidouille wrote:

Hi Organteq users,

using actually a Behringer U-Phoria UMC404HD as USB audio interface, I get some kind of cracks when I play many stops together and, also, the tutti of the organs. I have tried many settings of buffer size from 256 to 1024 samples. But, in any cases, I get this noise. Is there anybody using this same audio interface without trouble or, which USB audio interface do you use without this problem, even with many stops together.

Thank you for any help.

Hi Bidouille,

I have been fighting with my little Mac Mini, which always says that Can’t handle all information, when I’m using many stops. Now I finally found a way around the problem, and can use all stops ( Tutti ) when needed.

I have to play with a smaller number of stops when recording,  and do not use all the stops, until I export the piece to mp3 for youtube.Then I put all stops, or so many I need, on without listening, just export.   Because I found out, that when rendering, there is no polyphony limitation. 
I have Scarlett 2i4.
Hope this help you, try it....

Here an example when had many stops just before rendering to mp 3, no problem although I recorded with just some stops on

https://youtu.be/ANeyDq-nqxE

Best wishes,

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Re: Choice of USB audio interface

Hi Pianoteqenthusiast,

sorry to answer you so late. Hi have just tried what you explained me. It works fine. The MP3 file exported is noiseless. Importing the file in Cubase, I can even add some other sound.

I just wait now the version 2 of Organteq. Which stops will be added. Having lived in Paris, my dream would be a virtual organ close from the sound that could give the organ of Notre Dame, for me the best organ in the world. I just wait now to hear it again, normaly at the end of 2024.

Thank you for the music that you offer us often in this forum.

P.S. Just a little sample of the tutti of Notre Dame of Paris :

https://organ-au-logis.pagesperso-orang...mpro76.mp3

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Re: Choice of USB audio interface

Bidouille wrote:

Hi Pianoteqenthusiast,

sorry to answer you so late. Hi have just tried what you explained me. It works fine. The MP3 file exported is noiseless. Importing the file in Cubase, I can even add some other sound.

I just wait now the version 2 of Organteq. Which stops will be added. Having lived in Paris, my dream would be a virtual organ close from the sound that could give the organ of Notre Dame, for me the best organ in the world. I just wait now to hear it again, normaly at the end of 2024.

Thank you for the music that you offer us often in this forum.

P.S. Just a little sample of the tutti of Notre Dame of Paris :

https://organ-au-logis.pagesperso-orang...mpro76.mp3


Hi again Bidouille,
Thanks for the mp 3 clip from Notre Dame of Paris. Listening I was so incredibly impressed, inspired, so I couldn't resist uploading playing something similar with our fantastic Organteq (which offers over a thousand pipes) inspired from Cavaillé-Coll's organs. 

Although this should be in ”Recordings,” but I hope it can be forgiven here this time. I connect it to your mp.3 sample 
Enjoy !

Best,

Stig

https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...USB%20.mp3

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Re: Choice of USB audio interface

I use a Behringer U-Phoria UMC404HD in conjunction with a Microsoft Surface 7 (i5 processor). Everything works well.
In the case of Pianoteq, a weak (older) computer is enough. But for ORGANTEQ you need a good processor.

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Re: Choice of USB audio interface

I was experiencing the same problem describe by Bidouille with Organteq and (quasi-)tutti registrations.  Reducing the polyphony setting helped a lot.  Thanks for the advice!

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Re: Choice of USB audio interface

Hello, I have some experience with behringer interface.

I bought uca222 and behringer Xenyx Q802USB.

Here is my conclusion:

You can get low latency 3 ms.
You can use your interface using organteq, other vst, youtube etc simultaneously!!!.
Good quality etc.

How to get it?

Install new driver for your interface. It's called polytec USB One 2.8.40.

Begringer and Polytec have ended there patership and there no loger free driver avaible on web.

But with a little search you I have found origianal driver:

https://gearspace.com/board/music-compu...faces.html

first post, attachment.

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Re: Choice of USB audio interface

If you're looking for a multi-out interface with no inputs, but also support for midi over ethernet and midi over USB, here's my recommendation.

iConnectivity PlayAudio12.

It features 12 TRS outs (10 rear(  with 2 headphone outs at the front which can also be routed as further outs, can run 2 workstations simultaneously and rock solid. do some digging for prices, a little pricy at over £550 average but it's seriously worth it.

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