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Beto-Music wrote:
Thanks for sharing.
If only they actually sounded as different as they look.
Part of me could celebrate the craftsmanship. All power to the elbows of the builders, carving a niche for themselves (quite literally) in the modern market.
Another part feels a political swing to the left when looking at the sheer indulgent decadence!
It's like the antithesis of elegant beauty coming from a form that follows function.
More like the creators asked themselves (or their clients) what's different that we can glue to the outside to adorn this thing with theatrical baubles to impress the newly super rich for this project?
Shock and awe for corporate clients.
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Another part feels a political swing to the left when looking at the sheer indulgent decadence!
It's like the antithesis of elegant beauty coming from a form that follows function.
More like the creators asked themselves (or their clients) what's different that we can glue to the outside to adorn this thing with theatrical baubles to impress the newly super rich for this project?
Shock and awe for corporate clients.
Correct, from the grinding wheels of progress, all that which is beautiful is under overt attack. Impressionism, Cubism, Abstract art and pop art has been the progressive force that has reversed art into the corporate trashcan of mediocrity. It has given a whole new and grotesque meaning to period pieces.
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dubc wrote:
Key Fumbler wrote:Another part feels a political swing to the left when looking at the sheer indulgent decadence!
It's like the antithesis of elegant beauty coming from a form that follows function.
More like the creators asked themselves (or their clients) what's different that we can glue to the outside to adorn this thing with theatrical baubles to impress the newly super rich for this project?
Shock and awe for corporate clients.
Correct, from the grinding wheels of progress, all that which is beautiful is under overt attack. Impressionism, Cubism, Abstract art and pop art has been the progressive force that has reversed art into the corporate trashcan of mediocrity. It has given a whole new and grotesque meaning to period pieces.
Pretty much all art and creativity comes from a progressive mindset though. Broadly speaking conservative types keep the world's wheels going around but they don't like change, but the progressive types designed them in the first place. They produce a lot of rotten ideas and the good ideas hopefully keep rolling. It's a creative's lot to fail a lot more than they succeed. Those that keep the wheels turning don't have that option, but it's a more stable life.
To be fair this is entirely a capitalist issue - I'm not anti capitalism but at the extreme it does produce vulgar displays of gross excess which can prove especially distasteful in an age where hundreds of millions are going to face serious food and fuel poverty. It is like a super rich kid burning ten dollar bills in front of a homeless person for laughs. That's what I mean by feeling a swing to the left, seeing vulgar displays of wealth and considering the terrible waste. These designs were never meant as serious solutions to problems, or to bring beauty to the world as a whole. They are probably often even commissioned as cynical tax write offs!
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I don't want to spark more políticas discussion, but we are entering in a era of afraid/fear, that can leak to arts. Afraid of dislike something and be accused of some "******ism" against something.
I'm not bigot and and hate people with weak minds or angry prejudice, and I'm often accused of left wing or right wing, as I always make critic to the absurds in both slides. But people are not equal, and can vary a lot. We can't expect everything or everyone to be beautiful, creative and talented
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I've mentioned this piano before, but how about going further left and modeling a piano of the proletariat:
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NathanShirley wrote:
I've mentioned this piano before, but how about going further left and modeling a piano of the proletariat:
Great performance too.
A pretty thing too.
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I've mentioned this piano before, but how about going further left and modeling a piano of the proletariat:
Model this one, in a garage with lot's of bikes so that bass can rattle the chains with sympathetic harmonics.
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dubc wrote:
NathanShirley wrote:I've mentioned this piano before, but how about going further left and modeling a piano of the proletariat:
Model this one, in a garage with lot's of bikes so that bass can rattle the chains with sympathetic harmonics.
External sympathetic resonances - now there's an idea!
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dubc wrote:
NathanShirley wrote:I've mentioned this piano before, but how about going further left and modeling a piano of the proletariat:
Model this one, in a garage with lot's of bikes so that bass can rattle the chains with sympathetic harmonics.
Ha! "Let's see... I'll just increase sympathetic bike rattling a bit and decrease garage door rattling and... perfect!"
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Hey guys, please don't steal my Idea. I was the first to propose a virtual external ressonances, as a shower environment for pianoteq, to make possible for the first time on history of music to play piano in the shower, without the phsysical limitation of add a grand concert piano in such small space with "extreme high moisture".
;-)
You know, a shower have magic powers, as it can make a single mortal ordinary guy to sing without fell hinself horrible. So the virtual shower perhaps could make a poor playing feels great.
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Hmm, playing piano in a virtual shower... that would need Psycho-acoustic modelling, wouldn't it?
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Beto-Music wrote:
I'm not bigot and and hate people with weak minds or angry prejudice ...
isn't hating people with "weak minds" etc itself a form of bigotry...? ie being bigotted against bigots is, ipso facto, a form of bigotry...
'just say'n...
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Not whew is against the sort of weak minds that are easily turned into evil or criminal.
francine wrote:
Beto-Music wrote:I'm not bigot and and hate people with weak minds or angry prejudice ...
isn't hating people with "weak minds" etc itself a form of bigotry...? ie being bigotted against bigots is, ipso facto, a form of bigotry...
'just say'n...
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Well...
https://metro.co.uk/2021/08/05/singing-...-15041149/
dazric wrote:
Hmm, playing piano in a virtual shower... that would need Psycho-acoustic modelling, wouldn't it?
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Like you, I treasure the historical instruments. They are among my favorites!
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I've made these "requests" several times before, though I have the impression that one is really just talking into the ether with these sort of wishlists... but honestly, do we really need more Steinway-type modern grands when there are so many invaluable gems missing from the current survey of historic instruments, especially since preserving these instruments and making them available to a broader public is part of Pianoteq's stated raison d'etre?? from the very first paragraph of Modartt's mission statement:
in any event, my probable Pianoteq pipe-dreams include:
1) c1780s Stein (see for instance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC_PQFzaCKI)
2) Beethoven's 1803 Erard (see "Beethoven's Erard piano: its influence on his compositions and on Viennese fortepiano building", Tilman Skowroneck, Early Music, Volume XXX, Issue 4, 1 November 2002, Pages 523–539, uploaded here ==> http://www86.zippyshare.com/v/kEqyS8pA/file.html ; see also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnL9PIMH1nk).
3) c1814 N. Streicher (see for instance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3oWwsrCjTg , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmwv8G1beJA , and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY_ZYTV7qC0)
4) Liszt's 1846 Boisselot (see Paul McNulty's masterful recreation: http://luxurypianos.eu/boisselot/ , and an all-too-brief excerpt of McNulty's wife playing the instrument: https://youtu.be/r-LqGfUkN_M?t=523)
there are many more that I can think of but, for whatever it's worth (all of 2 centimes), these would be at the top of my list...
edit: N.B the board seems to not like some of these youtube clips and is showing a "video not available" error message, but the links do in fact work...!
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It's true but it's always the Pianoteq sound.
I think the PTQ model are dazzling!
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Beto-Music wrote:
Hey guys, please don't steal my Idea. I was the first to propose a virtual external ressonances.
Can Modartt borrow it in perpetuity instead? :-)
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Kremseg 1 has an I. Besendorfer. Is that related to the Bosendorfer???
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Kremseg 1 has an I. Besendorfer. Is that related to the Bosendorfer???
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BarbaraRB wrote:Kremseg 1 has an I. Besendorfer. Is that related to the Bosendorfer???
That is so interesting! So we do have a very early "Bosendorfer/Besendorfer" in the Kremsegg Collection. It doesn't matter to me that it isn't the same as the modern grand pianos. I love having these historical pianos. Similarly, we have the Steinway Square Piano. Some of these historical pianos are so much softer than the modern ones, and I love that quality. I've spent hours listening to some of the demos, and they take my breath away. We are able to trace the history of the development of the greatest names in piano history. Bravo!
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Along with the desire to see further improvements to the electric piano options (along with electric grand variants) the list of modern current manufacturers - Vintage Vibe (tines and clavs), Rhodes UK (tines) and Valente (reed):
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Since Modartt is based in France I'd suggest aiming at some of the local brands..
A brand new Pleyel (besides the 1926) would be nice to have.
My 02
I have a Pleyel 118 Studio upright.
This has a Renner action, and may have been one of the last actually made in France,
(not so long ago).
I think there is a reasonable chance Modartt could find one of these nearby to model.
This upright piano has a distinctive tone quite different from the Chinese and Japanese pianos
which can be a little bland for my taste.
When I was looking for an upright for my recording studio, I had nearly given up on finding the sound I was looking for until coming across my Pleyel in a small piano shop.
I love it. If Modartt made a version of it I would be able to use it for performance at events outside of the studio.
It would be great to see more choices with Pianoteq uprights, and this model I am sure would be appreciated by many.
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davidizquierdo82 wrote:Since Modartt is based in France I'd suggest aiming at some of the local brands..
A brand new Pleyel (besides the 1926) would be nice to have.
My 02
I have a Pleyel 118 Studio upright.
This has a Renner action, and may have been one of the last actually made in France,
(not so long ago).
I think there is a reasonable chance Modartt could find one of these nearby to model.
This upright piano has a distinctive tone quite different from the Chinese and Japanese pianos
which can be a little bland for my taste.
When I was looking for an upright for my recording studio, I had nearly given up on finding the sound I was looking for until coming across my Pleyel in a small piano shop.
I love it. If Modartt made a version of it I would be able to use it for performance at events outside of the studio.
It would be great to see more choices with Pianoteq uprights, and this model I am sure would be appreciated by many.
+1
Warmest regards,
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Borealis wrote:
+2
+3
I didn't know that modern Pleyel pianos exist! I thought it was strictly a historical instrument. I would love to see a modern Pleyel piano -- perhaps an upright -- added to Pianoteq. The two that exist on Pianoteq are so beautiful.
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Borealis wrote:+2
+3
I didn't know that modern Pleyel pianos exist! I thought it was strictly a historical instrument. I would love to see a modern Pleyel piano -- perhaps an upright -- added to Pianoteq. The two that exist on Pianoteq are so beautiful.
It got an uptick from me too.
The original French Pleyel stopped production in 2013.
Today it's something of a blended international effort, to put it mildly!:
https://www.pianostreet.com/blog/articl...way-11740/
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Key Fumbler wrote:
further improvements to the electric piano options
+1
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If Modartt want to modelise the new Maene-Vinoly piano... https://www.chrismaene.be/the-maene-vin...ert-grand/
I'm ready... I bended my FP-10 keyboard to play it....
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Key Fumbler wrote:
BarbaraRB wrote:Borealis wrote:+2
+3
I didn't know that modern Pleyel pianos exist! I thought it was strictly a historical instrument. I would love to see a modern Pleyel piano -- perhaps an upright -- added to Pianoteq. The two that exist on Pianoteq are so beautiful.It got an uptick from me too.
The original French Pleyel stopped production in 2013.
Today it's something of a blended international effort, to put it mildly!:
https://www.pianostreet.com/blog/articl...way-11740/
Thanks for sharing that very interesting article. Maybe the new Pleyel pianos will be good, but it makes me very sad. They've taken away everything that made Pleyel "Pleyel." I don't know why it couldn't have remained in France. They let people go who had oceans of experience. A very deep bench of talent, I'm sure. I just discovered that Pleyel made modern pianos, and now it turns out that the real Pleyel no longer exists. Viva la France!
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jacko wrote:
Key Fumbler wrote:further improvements to the electric piano options
+1
Yes and it would be nice if the RMI 300B Electra-piano was added to the collection :-)
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jacko wrote:Key Fumbler wrote:further improvements to the electric piano options
+1
Yes and it would be nice if the RMI 300B Electra-piano was added to the collection :-)
An electronic keyboard though, as opposed to electric or electromechanical.
As sounds go it's flat as a pancake anyway therefore ideal for sampling!:
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olepro wrote:jacko wrote:+1
Yes and it would be nice if the RMI 300B Electra-piano was added to the collection :-)
An electronic keyboard though, as opposed to electric or electromechanical.
As sounds go it's flat as a pancake anyway therefore ideal for sampling!:
Many people like pancakes :-) but you might be right, nothing to model here
I will try to make a synth patch... shouldn't be so hard ;-)
But I also found this, if anyone is interested https://plugins4free.com/plugin/2482/
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olepro wrote:
Key Fumbler wrote:olepro wrote:Yes and it would be nice if the RMI 300B Electra-piano was added to the collection :-)
An electronic keyboard though, as opposed to electric or electromechanical.
As sounds go it's flat as a pancake anyway therefore ideal for sampling!:
Many people like pancakes :-) but you might be right, nothing to model here
I will try to make a synth patch... shouldn't be so hard ;-)
But I also found this, if anyone is interested https://plugins4free.com/plugin/2482/
That will probably cover it either way.
Of course technically speaking somebody could throw a lot of wasted CPU power at modelling the behaviour of the circuitry of the original machine U-HE style. This however would be a tremendous waste of resources in this case as there's nothing changeable in the sound.
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YvesTh wrote:
If Modartt want to modelise the new Maene-Vinoly piano... https://www.chrismaene.be/the-maene-vin...ert-grand/
I'm ready... I bended my FP-10 keyboard to play it....
I am curious as to how soft pedaling is implemented in that piano with the curved keyboard.
Lanny
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Yamaha CFX Grand. By far the best piano I've ever heard.
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Yamaha CFX Grand. By far the best piano I've ever heard.
+1 (again).
A YC CFX s a popular request here, as is a Vienna 290.
Named like that neither need to be officially licensed. Hopefully Modartt haven't painted themselves into a corner with the official licenses.
The more I appreciate the dynamic tonal range of the Steinway D model the more I consider it the ultimate piano. The Pianoteq model accurately reflects my experience of recordings of Steinway D's. I have no hands on experience to go on whatsoever. So you could say it merely fits my expectation bias.
I don't hear quite the substantial tonal range change within any of the other (otherwise excellent) models, or real recordings of the real pianos either. Some of them can fit into a specific mix better but the D has such tonal range it offers dynamic contrast unavailable elsewhere.
So I will be perhaps be a little boring and say the king of the concert hall is the king for good reason (more than mere marketing power) as it is the best piano ever made, either in US or German incarnations.
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It's funny.. I learn about good pianos from PTQ's offering.
If it was important enough for Modartt to model it, then it must be an excellent piano.
That being said, I really like the sound of grand Bechstein pianos (just not the digital ones, please..).
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bmoshe wrote:
It's funny.. I learn about good pianos from PTQ's offering.
If it was important enough for Modartt to model it, then it must be an excellent piano.That being said, I really like the sound of grand Bechstein pianos (just not the digital ones, please..).
The Modartt Bechstein labelled "Digital" is regarded amongst the best.
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Key Fumbler wrote:
Doremi wrote:Yamaha CFX Grand. By far the best piano I've ever heard.
+1 (again).
A YC CFX s a popular request here, as is a Vienna 290.Named like that neither need to be officially licensed. Hopefully Modartt haven't painted themselves into a corner with the official licenses.
The more I appreciate the dynamic tonal range of the Steinway D model the more I consider it the ultimate piano. The Pianoteq model accurately reflects my experience of recordings of Steinway D's. I have no hands on experience to go on whatsoever. So you could say it merely fits my expectation bias.
I don't hear quite the substantial tonal range change within any of the other (otherwise excellent) models, or real recordings of the real pianos either. Some of them can fit into a specific mix better but the D has such tonal range it offers dynamic contrast unavailable elsewhere.
So I will be perhaps be a little boring and say the king of the concert hall is the king for good reason (more than mere marketing power) as it is the best piano ever made, either in US or German incarnations.
I heard a Pianoteq reviewer on YT saying the same but I wonder if you have a comparison where the difference is audible
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That being said, I really like the sound of grand Bechstein pianos (just not the digital ones, please..).
Modartt labeled this « Bechstein Digital Grand » because their version has been modeled directly after the official “C. BECHSTEIN Digital Grand” VST plug-in by Bechstein company.
So they just saved the time to sample the piano as it was already done by Bechstein themselves. But other than that, it is a grand Bechstein here, like all their other grands.
Regards.
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Paulo164 wrote:
bmoshe wrote:That being said, I really like the sound of grand Bechstein pianos (just not the digital ones, please..).
Modartt labeled this « Bechstein Digital Grand » because their version has been modeled directly after the official “C. BECHSTEIN Digital Grand” VST plug-in by Bechstein company.
So they just saved the time to sample the piano as it was already done by Bechstein themselves. But other than that, it is a grand Bechstein here, like all their other grands.
Regards.
The C. Bechstein is one of my absolute favorite Pianoteq models. I can't choose just one favorite because I really love a number of them!
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I heard a Pianoteq reviewer on YT saying the same but I wonder if you have a comparison where the difference is audible
Nothing specific - test with your own hands!
All you need is a graded hammer action keyboard.
If you want to see comparisons between real grand pianos have a look at Robert Estrin's piano YT channel.
Edit:
https://youtu.be/_MPpfLiSs4k
Here he was talking about the evolution of the piano quite a while back.
Perhaps off topic - has this revolutionised upright pianos yet?
https://youtu.be/ivuczNJPubo
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Maybe already mentioned (9 pages ...) : another Chris Maene piano :
"the straight grand"
As showcased by Daniel Barenboim :
https://youtu.be/PyYNq3PTQYI?t=189
(actually very curious what is possible recording-wise, since there's no crossing of strings ...)
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Key Fumbler wrote:hougtimo wrote:I was thinking last night that a good high-tier upright would be great, perhaps something quite iconic. For me it would have to be the Bechstein Concert 8 - a much more intimate sound that a grand.
Since Modartt simply has U4 as the catch all for the generic unbranded upright piano sound (with no brands implied) it could be interesting to see how they would differentiate a solitary upright piano if they were to keep the generic upright piano pack.
Maybe they could have a premium upright pack with say a couple of other top notch modelled high end uprights?I like the idea of a pack of uprights. I would want one to be an old, beat up junker.
The U4 upright is ideal for this - just slide the 'condition' slider all the way to the right!! - I've had some good results doing this with the U4. - I'm also guilty of not using this slider enough - so even for pristine grands, it's good to nudge it to the right a little, just to get a bit less perfection and slightly more realism/authenticity.
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Perhaps off topic - has this revolutionised upright pianos yet?
https://youtu.be/ivuczNJPubo
The Esmonde-White piano maker (here in Montréal) has a similar system, and they also claim that it makes an upright sound like a grand. It can be retrofitted to an existing upright for around $3-5K Canadian dollars.
PT 7.3 with Steinway B and D, U4 upright, YC5, Bechstein DG, Steingraeber, Ant. Petrov, Kremsegg Collection #2, Electric Pianos and Hohner Collection. http://antoinewcaron.com
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Key Fumbler wrote:Perhaps off topic - has this revolutionised upright pianos yet?
https://youtu.be/ivuczNJPuboThe Esmonde-White piano maker (here in Montréal) has a similar system, and they also claim that it makes an upright sound like a grand. It can be retrofitted to an existing upright for around $3-5K Canadian dollars.
Interesting. They've got quite a slick website too by the looks of it.
A lot of pennies, but I guess it must be labour intensive. Not something that's going to be fitted to just any upright.
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Interesting. They've got quite a slick website too by the looks of it.
A lot of pennies, but I guess it must be labour intensive. Not something that's going to be fitted to just any upright.
I know this is getting seriously off topic, but just to conclude, here is a link to a video describing the Fandrich action modification that Esmonde-White offers.
Looks much more complicated and invasive than the Japanese one. Maybe somebody will compare both eventually...
I guess we could have a separate thread about this if anybody wants to pursue.
https://youtu.be/RzP3szRoltM
PT 7.3 with Steinway B and D, U4 upright, YC5, Bechstein DG, Steingraeber, Ant. Petrov, Kremsegg Collection #2, Electric Pianos and Hohner Collection. http://antoinewcaron.com
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obiwan wrote:
Jake Johnson wrote:Key Fumbler wrote:Since Modartt simply has U4 as the catch all for the generic unbranded upright piano sound (with no brands implied) it could be interesting to see how they would differentiate a solitary upright piano if they were to keep the generic upright piano pack.
Maybe they could have a premium upright pack with say a couple of other top notch modelled high end uprights?I like the idea of a pack of uprights. I would want one to be an old, beat up junker.
The U4 upright is ideal for this - just slide the 'condition' slider all the way to the right!! - I've had some good results doing this with the U4. - I'm also guilty of not using this slider enough - so even for pristine grands, it's good to nudge it to the right a little, just to get a bit less perfection and slightly more realism/authenticity.
You probably know this, but for others who may be new to PTQ...
The presets on the U4 include "worn" and "ruined" as well as some others that may match what you are looking for. Also, I believe the U4 is the Yamaha U4 though they can't use the name.
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Also, I believe the U4 is the Yamaha U4 though they can't use the name.
There is no Yamaha U4, only U1 and U3.
From the picture in the GUI, the Pianoteq U4 looks very much like the Yamaha U3.
Thus by choosing this number Modartt does not risk to be suspected of plagiarism
(I own a U1 since 40 years)