Pianos you want Modartt to model? (Page 8 of 10)

I want them to model more harpsichords. I find the current set to not really quite hit that clean, crisp sound of a super nice one yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXi79RGTXiA

Also, some higher quality pianofortes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua_GHVEDCdI

Bosendorfer, as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWZR4fzc590

I'd also specifically look for some touching up on some of the existing pianos, adding to the base sympathetic resonance without getting too many high pitch/buzzing overtones when you increase it. That's one of the big things that I notice about a recorded piano vs. pianoteq, and that's a difference in the resonance in the wooden tones of the piano. I.e. this is a good example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfprFtmTb5k

I.e. here I can pick out a lot of very high overtones past the 8th. You might have to close your eyes a bit, but it's clearly the overtones and resonance of the cabinetry of the piano itself reverberating throughout the room. In addition, the reverberation is noticeably cleaner. That room has great resonance, but there's an unmistakable sound to a live piano, as well as a recording that I feel isn't exactly captured yet, but Pianoteq is the best I've found at capturing the sound. So, I'm investing some time trying to point out more constructive bits that are missing.

Basically, I hope soon that Pianoteq is indistinguishable from a real recorded piano with the highest fidelity, though right now it's the closest and most people probably can't tell the difference.

Beto-music,
Intriguing. Honestly never seen that kind of mushroom in a fridge freezer before. I will have to check the rest out at some point.
I remember Indiana Jones escaping this kind of mushroom by getting in a fridge freezer, which was similarly implausible, but not nearly as inventive.

Bösendorfer still owned by Yamaha.
Question is do Modartt want to make new unofficial non licensed piano models like the YC5 model nowadays?

It could be a model of a classic Imperial 290 I suppose, rather than a factory new unit.

If they are up for that though wouldn't it be cool if they also offered a YCFX in the YC pack.

I got that, it's a slightly cheeky suggestion!
That said my suggestion of a YCFX  in the YC pack is much more of a cheeky suggestion!
I imagine it hasn't been done because of the links with Yamaha - no official Yamaha model either so draw your own conclusions there..

Whether they would want to create an Imperial - 290 without a license since going the way of licensed products we'll have to see. Personally I don't think it would be a marketing problem but it's not my shout.

Yahama CFXIII

Hmm. That could be rather short notice!

How about a feasibility study with the Kremlin?

On february 19, 2021 at 9:03 Niclas said on this topic :
"We hope to offer more piano models in the near future."
To month later we had the first one the very good "Petrof Mistral".
Now I hope the "near future" is near...
For a new one... I'm not picky... any of these will do.
https://pianopricepoint.com/grand-piano...ove140000/

If they are giving Pianos away I won't be greedy, haven't got a big house, so a free Rhodes Mk8 will do at a pinch instead, as a relatively minor consolation prize!

I am a K2 project enthusiast. I like the idea of an authentic piano for Pianoteq, not based on existing models. I'm still hopeful that the Pianoteq 8 version will feature a fabulous and amazing K3!

Yes, I think the K project is worthy of development. As much as I like authentic piano models, I also like the concept of an 'ideal piano'. Speaking of which, just recently I've been making a detailed exploration of the Morphing feature, and I don't know why I left it so long. I thought it was a mainly a fun thing - and yes, it is a lot of fun, but it's much more than that. It's a serious tool for creating new piano sounds, and I love it!

Well yes, of course nobody really knows what an 'ideal piano' is. Was it Debussy or Chopin who wished for 'a piano without hammers'? There is an fxp (for v6) by Qexl called 'C. Bechstein DG Hammer Horrors' which gives an idea what a 'piano without hammers' might sound like! I used it in one of my projects.

Thanks to this thread I have just rediscovered the K2 that I had given up preferring by "placebo effect" to play on prestigious pianos. With my headphone the binaural preset sounds particularly well I think (maybe the better binaural preset of all instruments). Thanks to you...

I think the unique nature of Stuart & Sons pianos make them the perfect candidate for a Pianoteq instrument. None of us will ever be able to own a real one, but having a licensed one in Pianoteq could certainly let us experience the idea a little bit and help S&S spread their name some more, no?

I’d also like a Fazioli, as perhaps one of the most “different” full size grands not yet represented.

As for the K, I quite like the idea of Modartt combining the best features of pianos across the spectrum, or creating an idealized piano. More experimentation and flexibility preferred, as far as I’m concerned.

The number one Model I had wished for was Felt Pianos and Moddart thankfully answered this request that was also expressed by others. I play the felt models all the time.
The second model I'd love to see and play is the "Una Corda", as made by the Piano Maker David Klavins
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While I personally am not able to discern whether the existing models really sound like the original acoustic pianos they were made after, I find the Una Corda distinctive enough to add a different vibe to the Pianteq library. It's sound has a bit of a harp - there are numerous recordings on YouTube

Here 2 quite different recordings - one with, one without felt:
https://youtu.be/-l2o7l4aJfU

https://youtu.be/akyh4PDBjHg

I still have it and re- discovered it, but as usual a sample piano always feels less "alive" compared to Pianoteq. I assume that the notion of only hitting  one chord per note is nothing that PianoTeq or even Mr Klavins could patent, because it is older. David Klavins however changed the materials used for his Una Corda Instruments and the specific sound of his pianos could eventually be protected.
Nils Frahm recorded some nice music on it. He owns one. His piece "Nils has a new piano" in my opinion is played on it.

Yes, that is indeed possible. Maybe a better player can nicely play the Una Corda on NI's libraries, I can't. But with some of the. K2 presets in Pianoteq one can come in that direction. I find the sound of the CP80 a bit too limited in comparison.

Since Modartt is based in France I'd suggest aiming at some of the local brands..

A brand new Pleyel (besides the 1926) would be nice to have, this piano would represent a major part of the french traditional brands since Pleyel has acquired the other 2 historical piano representatives (Erard and Gaveau) in 1965

Some rough data about their latest model:

https://www.pleyel.com/en/op190-blk

I also agree with most of the famous models mentioned in this thread, I'd still add a Mason&Hamlin (they're a joy to play).

Feurich is also a "recent" Viennese brand that sounds amazing, some info here:

https://www.feurich.com/en/products/cla...concert-i/

I don't know what you guys think about August Förster, it's a German manufacturer with some awesome models, it may be easier to approach them to "authorise" since they might see the opportunity of a nice advertisment among less acknowledged pianists/hobbiest

https://www.august-foerster.de/cms/en/14/Technical-Data

My 02

Pleyel : Conceived in France, assembled in Indonesia ...

That means they are no longer "local brands" in the truest sense.
That's not to say they are necessarily inferior in terms of quality of construction.
Equally part of the charm of supporting quality home grown local brands is gone, and those French jobs have gone. So the product doesn't have the same provenance.

Thank you @key_flumber I figured that much and I fully second it. I still think they're worth models to have in the "wishlist" though, just as a second option maybe aside the mainstream (SKEX, CFX, F308, Imperial Bösen... )

honestly i would be happy with any excellent modern piano they haven't done yet.  for instance i had never played on Petrof or Steingraeber pianos, really never even heard of the latter, but i really like them now.  so whatever they can do, i'm into it.

Yes it's been the longest time between any new releases.

So I'm guessing they'll come up with multiple new things in quick succession. Perhaps a major upgrade to the engine too?

I would like to see updates to the electric pianos and FX in there. Modelled suitcases perhaps?
Amp models?

Maybe some other Rhodes models. Add in the new Vintage Vibe with slider sound control, and also the new Mk8 Rhodes, and Valente electric to add to the Wurly type sound. 

Perhaps they can do some official uprights too?
That said U4 still sounds great so..

Bof... J'aime pas les pommes !...

Hello,

We can probably do a lot already with morphing and layering. Here's a quick example. I will test further 

https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...0model.mp3

Best wishes,

Stig

Pianoteqenthusiast, Organteqenthusiast, Harpteqenthusiast, Harpsichordteqenthusiast, experimenter and Graf/Grimalditeqenthusiast

Stig here's one for you to emulate...

I love the sound of this Double-Virgil - it almost sound synthesised.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EGgmfhgoqI