Pianoteq 7 (Page 2 of 3)

as said Zaskar

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thank you Modartt

A long-time user, I bought the 7 update after learning about it.

After 3 minutes of playing I want to thank you all. The incredible advantage of pianoteq is that all of us users of all kinds with older machines can simply be sure that from version 2 to 3 or now 6 to 7 there will still be a glitch-cpu-overload free Pianoteq. I will check but there seems to be nearly no loss in the performance index.

This is sheer wizardry. The sound getting better all the time, but a well kept machine from 2012 is still a good PC to enjoy Pianoteq.

Thank you so much!  As to the sounds - all of you can still keep the former version and compare for yourselves! I must always start with the wonderful Bechstein, because a relative of mine who really could play extremely good, unlike me^^, she had a real Bechstein some 100 years ago.
So the evening will be the time to play with the new New York Steinway grand D and the changed sound of the Hamburg Steinway D.

And even if we're not really in the age of "AI" and the machines are still doing what we tell them to, it seems my old AMD 2012 PC and an even older laptop (in case we will be able to do little voyages again and I will be able to take pianoteq and the laptop with me to an old house in no-man's land^^) seem to want to say a big "thank you, Modartt!" because it works so well. Code written to avoid that millions have to throw away their macs or whatever constantly - wonderful is all I can say.

"Windows Audio" in the Pianoteq options/devices panel is wasapi, so there are now three flavours of wasapi The shared one, the exclusive one, and the new one (only on recent windows 10 releases), which is supposed to bring the low latency of the exclusive one, while still allowing the soundcard to be shared with other applications.

But I feel that the promised "low latency" depends very much on the sound card drivers, and that ASIO is still a safer bet for low latency.

I have been playing around with this a little more. This is so extremely good, I predict  this will be the killer feature of P7, let's see if I'm right. I just played around with a morph of the DG Bechstein and an electric piano, this is just fantastic.

Tell your team (and yourself of course) a big thank you for this and congratulations on the good work.

Please correct "Mophing" on the tab of overview page for P7: https://www.modartt.com/pianoteq

Dan

Very good job on the Steinways. They have a clear and more solid feel with more crunch in the bass region. It sounds cleaner playing triads than in version 6. It sounds more like what I've tried the fine-tune with version 6.

NY Steinway Model D and the HB Steinway Model D are perfect for me.

I couldn't find the Bosendorfers in the demos.

Same question from me as well.
(My MacBookPro had its 11th birthday this year ...)

Any improvement in the harp model?

I upgraded to Pianoteq 7 last evening and I think it surely has remarkable improvements over version 6!

The Steinway Ds on the whole sound a lot more 'three dimensional'. The bass notes are stronger, seem to have higher partial content, and longer and more realistic sustains.

Thanks to Modartt for generously including the New York Steinways as well without us needing to buy a new instrument pack.

There is only one small thing I am a bit concerned about and perhaps other forum members/admins can help me with it:
- Is anybody else noticing an artificially synthesized string sound (wiry) when playing the NY Steinways? Something like the effect of a simple Karplus Strong algorithm. Although this effect is quite mild, I am hearing it quite often when I play without any pedal. I have never personally played a Spirio R so I am not sure if this is an inherent quality of this instrument.

On the whole, I am super happy with the upgrade and am really enjoying the sounds in the new version.

I noticed the same and was wondering why too.

Yes, 60 dB was a bit exaggerated I find (higher than a real acoustic). We went down to more "reasonable" values.

Dear Modartt teams

Thank you so much for Pianoteq 7. Wow!!!

Warmest regards,

Chris

Is anyone else having issues with horrible overtones that ruin the experience with PT7?

New York Steinway D: This instrument feels mostly like a real step up in terms of tone and realism to the sound - but it's like an unfinished product. I've been playing with it all day, I've set up my velocity curve to my DP action, but in the mid-section the sound feels very distant / muffled. There are also some REALLY unpleasant harmonics on some notes that seem to drown everything else out. This happens for me mostly with C6 on this instrument, and it physically hurts! As the note blooms it just becomes harsh, horrible and overpowering. I can sort-of get round it with a custom microphone configuration, but it makes the instrument unplayable on 'binaural' mode - which is what I use 99% of the time. It's such a shame, as this particular instrument shows a lot of promise of a potential step up in terms of tone / tone development.

Bechstein D282: This has been my go-to instrument ever since it came out a couple of years ago - it's exactly the tone and response I like. It feels like this instrument has been totally ruined in version 7 of PianoTeq. I have a similar issue with harshness in the treble, and this time it's G6 that is giving me issues, but the bloom on most of the treble register makes it sound really horrible in general. I still have v6.x.x installed, and this plays just how I like - so it's not my ears!

I'm not a sound engineer, I don't understand how to tweak Pianoteq sufficiently to get rid of the characteristics I'm coming up against - I'm a pianist and I just want it to sound like it did before...

The velocity curve differs for each instrument, so it will naturally change as you change instruments. However, you can now create universal velocity curves. Right-click inside the Velocity Curve pane to find this.

7.002 already available.

Is it just me or are other users also noticing that the new NY Steinway D and the Steinway B in version 7 both have an artificial wiry quality to the sound? This is especially noticeable when playing without sustain pedal or too much reverb. 

I am using a MacBook pro-2017 and AKG studio headphones.

The Hamburg Steinway D on the other hand sounds quite fantastic and has definitely improved over version 6.

I just (re)downloaded KIViR.ptq

Now it's accessible in 7.0.2 but not in 6.7.3 anymore !?!?

Anyone else?

I just loaded it... doesn't say what it fixes

I'd like to have a look at this too. There are many presets with quite different qualities, which preset are you using? Could you please choose a builtin preset that illustrates your issue, make a small example and send to our support https://www.modartt.com/support:
- name of the preset used
- MIDI file
- audio file (mp3) exported from the standalone version
That way we will be able to work on it.

I had more time to try it out yesterday. There are a lot more changes to the sound then I initally thought. The Bechstein has some serious ooomph now in the low end, in comparison the PT6 versions sounds really flat. The U4 is also greatly improved, it just sounds fuller with a lot more body (sorry sound is hard to describe, but I think that fits it best)

I tried PT6 and 7 back to back, and I was really suprised of how much the Bechstein improved. Really great job. The only remaining gripe is that metallic overtone in the treble notes that is distinct to PT, that's still there from what I can say (can be mitigated a lot with settings though). The bass part is absolutely beautiful now though.

One thing though: I have to say that the "default velocity curve" that I made for PT6 doesn't work for all pianos in PT7 anymore, so the global curve doesn't help me. I'll have to make a specific curve for each instrument it seems.

Yes, it's a bug. We are working on fixing it.

Thanks!

I'm confused. I'm fully upgraded to v7. But in my user area, the most recent version of Kivir available to me says 'requires version 6.5 or later'.

Aha, it's fixed now. Thanks!