Topic: The Werckmeister III preset Vs The scala file “werck3.scl”
First I would like to thank DavidJones for this post of the thread Well vs. Equal Temperament.
Here is a question for _DJ_ and all others with a good knowledge of Historical Temperaments.
I have compared two CLEARLY different temperaments,
I have the 4.5.5 version of Pianoteq and I tried the werckmeister III that comes available as a tuning preset, and I also loaded the file “werck3.scl” and clearly shows a general shift in pitch when playing the piece: F.Couperin "Les baricades misterieuses" Midi file of the piece available here:
http://www.kunstderfuge.com/couperin.htm
http://www.kunstderfuge.com/-/midi.asp?...rchive.mid
couperin_6_5_les_baricades.
What is really strange is that I understand both to be the same Werckmeister III temperament with a=415.
On Pianoteq within Grimaldi A, I have selected the a=415 and compared it to a=440 to ensure that the a=415 is indeed selected and Pianoteq is playin in a=415, and then played the same piece with the scala file “werck3.scl” but they clearly produce obviously different results, with a clear general shift in pitch, not just slight modifications of some intervals. What is REALLY incredible is that these two Werckmeister III, (the built-in tuning preset) and the “werck3.scl scala file correspond, to my ears, very closely (although not exactly as I have explaned in more detail in this other thread: Tempest great tool for estimating the temperament from recording to these two temperaments available on youtube:
The the built-in tuning preset matches very closely the tuning on
Claudio di Veroli (Tuning: ordinaire (Rousseau) temperament)
Claudio di Veroli (Tuning: ordinaire (Rousseau) temperament)
and the scala file “werck3.scl” copied below:
! werck3.scl
!
Andreas Werckmeister's temperament III (the most famous one, 1681)
12
!
256/243
192.18000
32/27
390.22500
4/3
1024/729
696.09000
128/81
888.26999
16/9
1092.18000
2/1
which can be downloaded here
http://www.huygens-fokker.org/docs/scales.zip
werck3.scl “Andreas Werckmeister's temperament III (the most famous one, 1681)”
The latter one: werck3.scl file (copied above) matches very closely the temperament featured on this YouTube video. As you will notice when compared with the original Claudio di Veroli (Tuning: ordinaire (Rousseau) temperament) (see youtube link above) the pitches are higher:
Elena Zhukova Video here: