I see a lot of audio to midi converters on the internet but they don't work well for piano or other polyphonic instruments recordings.
Is there a good piano audio recordings to midi converter? I have some piano audio recordings that i want to listen with pianoteq sounds, please help me.
The best polyphonic audio detection out there is Melodyne. Nothing else tops it. However depending on material, Melodyne can be hit and miss. There's no silver bullet for this.
I concur with Mr. Dragon:
Melodyne can certainly be hit-or-miss, especially if a lot of sustain pedal is used in the original piano performance. Melodyne simply does not know how to handle sustained notes, especially if there is a lot of pedal work at hand.
If more than a modest amount of rubato is present in the original piano audio to be converted, any audio-to-midi converter may confuse the correct placement of rhythm and bar lines.
In addition, reverb tends to wreak havoc with audio-to-midi conversion.
Cheers,
Joe
I concur with Mr. Dragon:
Melodyne can certainly be hit-or-miss, especially if a lot of sustain pedal is used in the original piano performance. Melodyne simply does not know how to handle sustained notes, especially if there is a lot of pedal work at hand.
If more than a modest amount of rubato is present in the original piano audio to be converted, any audio-to-midi converter may confuse the correct placement of rhythm and bar lines.
In addition, reverb tends to wreak havoc with audio-to-midi conversion.
Cheers,
Joe
Thank you for all the answers.
Is there a service to convert piano recordings to midi files? Because on Youtube some pianists sell piano midi files (only 1 dolar per midi file) but usually they don't take requests.
The only service would be paying someone with perfect pitch to do a transcription
The only service would be paying someone with perfect pitch to do a transcription
Thank you! I Can’t find a person who do that.
Before you do that you might give Transcribe! a try.
30-day demo, and *much* cheaper than Melodyne (you would need the top-of-the-range Studio edition). I have not used it, but the reviews make a trial irresistible. (Ars longa, vita brevis, et cetera).
I use AnthemScore ( https://www.lunaverus.com/ ). Is not expensive, has free trial (limited). It gives you more or less the correct notes and rhythm, it loads the
transcription directly into Musecore (if you have that, it is free). At least it quickly gives you the basis/starting point. After that I make something playable using Transcribe. It speeds up transcription process a lot, no need for absolute pitch either, every amature can do it. I just tried with this video someone posted some time ago (Body and Soul Nellie McKay, I dont recall where, sorry, it indeed has a very nice pianoteq like piano sound):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXZvWJx0RTs , the result is actually already quite OK, it just takes 5 minutes. With lots of sustain it is not so good off course and unfortunately..
One of the best tools for converting piano audio to midi is Eldoraudio's Piano Audio to MIDI Converter.
It is extremely accurate and easy to use. I hope that helps.
https://eldoraudio.com/products/piano-audio-to-midi
One of the best tools for converting piano audio to midi is Eldoraudio's Piano Audio to MIDI Converter.
It is extremely accurate and easy to use. I hope that helps.
https://eldoraudio.com/products/piano-audio-to-midi
I tried Magenta a few years ago, but it needed a lot of corrections. I just tested the same tracks on Eldoraudio. It's excellent, it even find the pedals movement. Thanks for the link.
Before you do that you might give Transcribe! a try.
30-day demo, and *much* cheaper than Melodyne (you would need the top-of-the-range Studio edition). I have not used it, but the reviews make a trial irresistible. (Ars longa, vita brevis, et cetera).
Transcribe! is an audio and mp4 video slowdown/looping program, it does not convert audio to midi by itself. I have used it over 20+ years. You loop an audio in small chunks and write the notes down yourself.
New kid on the block of audio-to-MIDI translation, and one that requires nothing to install.
https://basicpitch.spotify.com/
New kid on the block of audio-to-MIDI translation, and one that requires nothing to install.
https://basicpitch.spotify.com/
Basicpitch does not detect any pedals, poor detection. File cannot be listened to directly, unlike Eldoraudio's. Test performed using the same file (1966 recording). Eldoraudio is very impressive before any correction.
One of the best tools for converting piano audio to midi is Eldoraudio's Piano Audio to MIDI Converter.
It is extremely accurate and easy to use. I hope that helps.
https://eldoraudio.com/products/piano-audio-to-midi
I have always been disappointed with audio to midi converters , specially when sustain is down , but I have to admit after a few tries Eldoraudio is quite good . Of course it still needs some corrections , but may well be the best one I have tried so far .
Just to let you know the open-source tool I created, it's actually "the latest AI model" published in 2024: https://github.com/Yujia-Yan/Transkun .
One of the best tools for converting piano audio to midi is Eldoraudio's Piano Audio to MIDI Converter.
It is extremely accurate and easy to use. I hope that helps.
https://eldoraudio.com/products/piano-audio-to-midi
Wow, this is great. Thanks Daniel.
I came across this github project, https://github.com/HemantKArya/Melodfy , that does a decent job on the notes but does tend to split longer notes into several shorter ones, so you have to go through and do some note joins.
I think I might find something like this useful for transcribing something that sounds complicated to me that I struggle to figure out. Something like the actual notes being played by Oscar Peterson or a few others that have blistering speed, or a few of the various church musicians who come up with lush chords that are a little out of my wheelhouse that I'd like to get more of a handle on. It might not even be full works, just little bits and pieces that are not so easy to pick out by ear.
If you're on a Mac, Piano Transcriptionist is a free download at Apple App Store.
Just to let you know the open-source tool I created, it's actually "the latest AI model" published in 2024: https://github.com/Yujia-Yan/Transkun .
Just a wonderful working Yujia.
I put a Rachmaninoff prelude op 23 No2 in your great piece of software, and it did a terrific job.
Congratulations, it is just gorgeous.
And of course, Pianoteq did a tremendous job for reconstructing the midi file as perfect as the audio file...it is so impressive.
Congratulations too, Pianoteq team.
Best wishes.
Still can't believe how far these detection software have come.
For now I'm still using eldoraudio for these, since it works pretty well for the kind of audios I test it with.
One of the interesting things of it is the use of the pedals, both damper and una corda.
Original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvUTTAw8Dew
Recording of the midi file played with a Pianoteq K2 preset: https://www.mediafire.com/file/h057exaq....flac/file
The midi itself: https://www.mediafire.com/file/7m7acl1d...y.mid/file
I'll check the rest of the tools people were sharing here later and put some example audios for these too.
MbcCovers2 nice idea, I will post here the audio and the midi files of Rachmaninoff prelude op 23 no2.
You are right, it's impressive how this technology know when pedals (sustains, una corda) are down or up.
Check this out how great the software of Yujia did.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/14ff14hv...2.mid/file
https://www.mediafire.com/file/0vlncuhz...2.mp3/file
MbcCovers2 nice idea, I will post here the audio and the midi files of Rachmaninoff prelude op 23 no2.
You are right, it's impressive how this technology know when pedals (sustains, una corda) are down or up.
Check this out how great the software of Yujia did.
That's pretty
Maybe try this
https://huggingface.co/spaces/Fancellu/...on_to_midi
You can even try the sample mp3s at the bottom
It uses an AI model https://huggingface.co/Genius-Society/piano_trans
Are you using AI as much as it is using you? There is another AI that is always watching, learning... Why?
Yujia wrote:Just to let you know the open-source tool I created, it's actually "the latest AI model" published in 2024: https://github.com/Yujia-Yan/Transkun .
Just a wonderful working Yujia.
I put a Rachmaninoff prelude op 23 No2 in your great piece of software, and it did a terrific job.
Congratulations, it is just gorgeous.
And of course, Pianoteq did a tremendous job for reconstructing the midi file as perfect as the audio file...it is so impressive.
Congratulations too, Pianoteq team.
Best wishes.
How did you manage to install this tool?
I am not realy good with programming stuff, but I asked a well versed programmer (doing things like that for a living) to inmstall this from github. He did not succeed.
Any help from your side?
Thanks in advance
I just used my s/w, nothing for you to install
https://huggingface.co/spaces/Fancellu/...on_to_midi
Downloaded the mp3, turned to midi
https://imslp.org/wiki/10_Preludes,_Op....f,_Sergei)
Link for a week (https://limewire.com/d/tG1VM#WjNbsGESoa)
Beco wrote:Yujia wrote:Just to let you know the open-source tool I created, it's actually "the latest AI model" published in 2024: https://github.com/Yujia-Yan/Transkun .
Just a wonderful working Yujia.
I put a Rachmaninoff prelude op 23 No2 in your great piece of software, and it did a terrific job.
Congratulations, it is just gorgeous.
And of course, Pianoteq did a tremendous job for reconstructing the midi file as perfect as the audio file...it is so impressive.
Congratulations too, Pianoteq team.
Best wishes.
How did you manage to install this tool?
I am not realy good with programming stuff, but I asked a well versed programmer (doing things like that for a living) to inmstall this from github. He did not succeed.
Any help from your side?Thanks in advance
Actually I am not a programmer either, my Linux knowledge is very limited. I did installation following the problems when they were appearing.
The problem every system has some missing packs and others different packs installed.
First I installed the pip (python) software. When I try to install "pip3 install transkun" I got the first problem. It was missing some packs that I don't remember now, but I just ask the A.I. (I just wrote in my mozilla that it has an A.I integration, like chrome has) ,(my system is Debian 13) and follow the instruction.
I follow all the steps of the missing packs and after almost 10 gig of download (I needed to download the A.I. components) I just need to activate the VENV python environments (that was for me the principal point).
The program ran smoothly, but I couldn't run with my gpu mode, only with my cpu mode (more slowly).
I hope these steps give you some ideia.
Actually I am not a programmer either, my Linux knowledge is very limited. I did installation following the problems when they were appearing.
The problem every system has some missing packs and others different packs installed.
First I installed the pip (python) software. When I try to install "pip3 install transkun" I got the first problem. It was missing some packs that I don't remember now, but I just ask the A.I. (I just wrote in my mozilla that it has an A.I integration, like chrome has) ,(my system is Debian 13) and follow the instruction.
I follow all the steps of the missing packs and after almost 10 gig of download (I needed to download the A.I. components) I just need to activate the VENV python environments (that was for me the principal point).
The program ran smoothly, but I couldn't run with my gpu mode, only with my cpu mode (more slowly).I hope these steps give you some ideia.
Thank you. Yes this might help my son to overcome the problems (Same approach by the way - missing packets, missing software, AI helped further. But not up to a successfull end. Yet!) With your input that might change. Best Regards
Today you have another new kid on the block! This time it’s Prism with an introductory sale price at just $79 (US). However, it’s always free to you to test up to twenty-one (21) days… Which should be plenty of time of course before you make your final decision, if you’re going to decide whether to purchase it or not.
Now what seems to stand apart from the rest that’s been introduced at this thread is the DAW integration you can get, as Prism is simply used as a plug-in or through ARA inside any DAW that specifically supports it.
Check it out for yourself!
https://youtu.be/lh1r21EtpOQ?si=W5PAJe4AXjj7xUuV
Edited this post which began with the previous “Now you have a new kid on the block!” that didn’t really take into any consideration what came from dv already.
with an introductory sale price at just $79
Mmmm, with so many already available that are free? Okay, DAW integration for those who want it, but why? I just find DAW a nuisance (that is one of the reasons I like Pianoteq, since it does not require a DAW or some other krappy software like kontakt), but even if one uses a DAW and enjoys it, a Audio-to-MIDI project is a one-off thing, I think, and you don't need a DAW for that. Well, I guess you could use Audio-to-MIDI to get MIDI of a singer or of an acoustic instrument and play that live with accompaniment generated from the MIDI. Maybe. One. Day. I bet this is too slow to be done real time with the necessary sub-10ms latency, and will be for the foreseeable future
Amen Ptah Ra wrote:with an introductory sale price at just $79
Mmmm, with so many already available that are free? Okay, DAW integration for those who want it, but why? I just find DAW a nuisance (that is one of the reasons I like Pianoteq, since it does not require a DAW or some other krappy software like kontakt), but even if one uses a DAW and enjoys it, a Audio-to-MIDI project is a one-off thing, I think, and you don't need a DAW for that. Well, I guess you could use Audio-to-MIDI to get MIDI of a singer or of an acoustic instrument and play that live with accompaniment generated from the MIDI. Maybe. One. Day. I bet this is too slow to be done real time with the necessary sub-10ms latency, and will be for the foreseeable future
There is a learning curve for any DAW, that's for sure, but they are definitely advantages : ultra low latency with Reaper/Pianoteq at 48Khz sample rate / 32 buffer size as Pianoteq Standalone limits it at 64 , VST Host as Pianoteq is not a VST host so you cannot load any VST plugin should you need to , Mixing capabilities if you record a session different instrumentalists and use an Audio Interface with various analog inputs , Powerful post editing capabilities within the DAW when any pianoteq session has been recorded. The Standalone interface is brillant and 'plug and play' but has limited capabilities vs a DAW/VST3 setup.
New kid on the block of audio-to-MIDI translation…
Now I get it: why all the negativity, supposedly about a DAW. I just completely disregarded your previous post. Man, this was quite totally unintentional!
I just edited my own; no way now does it contradict or supplant yours.
No need now to further bash DAW usage, let’s just see if people like you and I positively can get along somehow —with even different views, of course about a DAW. (Smile.)
dv wrote:New kid on the block of audio-to-MIDI translation…
Now I get it: why all the negativity, supposedly about a DAW. I just completely disregarded your previous post. Man, this was quite totally unintentional!
I just edited my own; no way now does it contradict or supplant yours.
No need now to further bash DAW usage, let’s just see if people like you and I positively can get along somehow —with even different views, of course about a DAW. (Smile.)
I didn't intend to insult or anything, I apologize for the negativity. We can be friend and I'd be happy to. Just that I won't use DAWs because I don't need them (but I do understand people who do). That asides, I don't get why one would want this paid new kid on the block. Well maybe it's more accurate or faster or better or whatever than the free ones, but you did not say that :-) so I don't see the point of paying