Topic: Piano audio recordings to midi converter

I see a lot of audio to midi converters on the internet but they don't work well for piano or other polyphonic instruments recordings.

Is there a good piano audio recordings to midi converter? I have some piano audio recordings that i want to listen with pianoteq sounds, please help me.

Re: Piano audio recordings to midi converter

The best polyphonic audio detection out there is Melodyne. Nothing else tops it. However depending on material, Melodyne can be hit and miss. There's no silver bullet for this.

Last edited by EvilDragon (17-07-2018 08:58)
Hard work and guts!

Re: Piano audio recordings to midi converter

I concur with Mr. Dragon:

Melodyne can certainly be hit-or-miss, especially if a lot of sustain pedal is used in the original piano performance.  Melodyne simply does not know how to handle sustained notes, especially if there is a lot of pedal work at hand.

If more than a modest amount of rubato is present in the original piano audio to be converted, any audio-to-midi converter may confuse the correct placement of rhythm and bar lines.

In addition, reverb tends to wreak havoc with audio-to-midi conversion.

Cheers,

Joe

Last edited by jcfelice88keys (18-07-2018 20:05)

Re: Piano audio recordings to midi converter

jcfelice88keys wrote:

I concur with Mr. Dragon:

Melodyne can certainly be hit-or-miss, especially if a lot of sustain pedal is used in the original piano performance.  Melodyne simply does not know how to handle sustained notes, especially if there is a lot of pedal work at hand.

If more than a modest amount of rubato is present in the original piano audio to be converted, any audio-to-midi converter may confuse the correct placement of rhythm and bar lines.

In addition, reverb tends to wreak havoc with audio-to-midi conversion.

Cheers,

Joe

Thank you for all the answers.
Is there a service to convert piano recordings to midi files? Because on Youtube some pianists sell piano midi files (only 1 dolar per midi file) but usually they don't take requests.

Re: Piano audio recordings to midi converter

The only service would be paying someone with perfect pitch to do a transcription

Hard work and guts!

Re: Piano audio recordings to midi converter

EvilDragon wrote:

The only service would be paying someone with perfect pitch to do a transcription

Thank you! I Can’t find a person who do that.

Re: Piano audio recordings to midi converter

Before you do that you might give Transcribe! a try.

30-day demo, and *much* cheaper than Melodyne (you would need the top-of-the-range Studio edition). I have not used it, but the reviews make a trial irresistible. (Ars longa, vita brevis, et cetera).

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I use AnthemScore ( https://www.lunaverus.com/ ). Is not expensive, has free trial (limited). It gives you more or less the correct notes and rhythm, it loads the
transcription directly into Musecore (if you have that, it is free). At least it quickly gives you the basis/starting point. After that I make something playable using Transcribe. It speeds up transcription process a lot, no need for absolute pitch either, every amature can do it.  I just tried with this video someone posted some time ago (Body and Soul Nellie McKay, I dont recall where, sorry, it indeed has a very nice pianoteq like  piano sound):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXZvWJx0RTs , the result is actually already quite OK, it just takes 5 minutes. With lots of sustain it is not so good off course and unfortunately..

Re: Piano audio recordings to midi converter

One of the best tools for converting piano audio to midi is Eldoraudio's Piano Audio to MIDI Converter.
It is extremely accurate and easy to use. I hope that helps.
https://eldoraudio.com/products/piano-audio-to-midi

Re: Piano audio recordings to midi converter

DanielJohnson wrote:

One of the best tools for converting piano audio to midi is Eldoraudio's Piano Audio to MIDI Converter.
It is extremely accurate and easy to use. I hope that helps.
https://eldoraudio.com/products/piano-audio-to-midi

I tried Magenta a few years ago, but it needed a lot of corrections. I just tested the same tracks on Eldoraudio. It's excellent, it even find the pedals movement. Thanks for the link.

Re: Piano audio recordings to midi converter

hyper.real wrote:

Before you do that you might give Transcribe! a try.

30-day demo, and *much* cheaper than Melodyne (you would need the top-of-the-range Studio edition). I have not used it, but the reviews make a trial irresistible. (Ars longa, vita brevis, et cetera).

Transcribe! is an audio and mp4 video slowdown/looping program, it does not convert audio to midi by itself. I have used it over 20+ years. You loop an audio in small chunks and write the notes down yourself.

Re: Piano audio recordings to midi converter

New kid on the block of audio-to-MIDI translation, and one that requires nothing to install.
https://basicpitch.spotify.com/

Where do I find a list of all posts I upvoted? :(

Re: Piano audio recordings to midi converter

dv wrote:

New kid on the block of audio-to-MIDI translation, and one that requires nothing to install.
https://basicpitch.spotify.com/

Basicpitch does not detect any pedals, poor detection. File cannot be listened to directly, unlike Eldoraudio's. Test performed using the same file (1966 recording). Eldoraudio is very impressive before any correction.

Re: Piano audio recordings to midi converter

DanielJohnson wrote:

One of the best tools for converting piano audio to midi is Eldoraudio's Piano Audio to MIDI Converter.
It is extremely accurate and easy to use. I hope that helps.
https://eldoraudio.com/products/piano-audio-to-midi

I have always been disappointed with audio to midi converters , specially when sustain is down , but I have to admit after a few tries Eldoraudio is quite good . Of course it still needs some corrections , but may well be the best one I have tried so far .