Topic: Standard vs Pro

Hello, I'm new to this forum and to pianoteq in general.

I was wondering whether pro is worth buying, since the price increase is quite significant for me.
* I will use it for recording music *

- Is the 192 kHz necessary for a good recording or will 48 kHz suffice?
- Do you find yourself using the "Note-per-note edit" with it's additional features often?

Thank you in advance!

Re: Standard vs Pro

Illumnia wrote:

Hello, I'm new to this forum and to pianoteq in general.

I was wondering whether pro is worth buying, since the price increase is quite significant for me.
* I will use it for recording music *

- Is the 192 kHz necessary for a good recording or will 48 kHz suffice?
- Do you find yourself using the "Note-per-note edit" with it's additional features often?

Thank you in advance!

I don’t think anyone records real pianos at 192KHz. The highest piano note is about 4KHz, and overtones are produced at multiple times that frequency. So you’ll get some overtones at 16KHz, and around 20KHz (most people can’t hear past 18KHz).

Recording at 192KHz means you could reproduce frequencies at half that, so you can reproduce 96KHz frequencies.

I’d say standard is fine (reproduces frequencies to 24KHz) unless you want per note editing.

Re: Standard vs Pro

dikrek wrote:
Illumnia wrote:

Hello, I'm new to this forum and to pianoteq in general.

I was wondering whether pro is worth buying, since the price increase is quite significant for me.
* I will use it for recording music *

- Is the 192 kHz necessary for a good recording or will 48 kHz suffice?
- Do you find yourself using the "Note-per-note edit" with it's additional features often?

Thank you in advance!

I don’t think anyone records real pianos at 192KHz. The highest piano note is about 4KHz, and overtones are produced at multiple times that frequency. So you’ll get some overtones at 16KHz, and around 20KHz (most people can’t hear past 18KHz).

Recording at 192KHz means you could reproduce frequencies at half that, so you can reproduce 96KHz frequencies.

I’d say standard is fine (reproduces frequencies to 24KHz) unless you want per note editing.

Thank you kindly for your quick response and answer. I think I'll go with the standard edition. Thanks again!

Re: Standard vs Pro

Or use the (cheaper) Stage version to start with 2 piano models.

AFAIK this version never got/gets a discount or special offers. But the Standard and Pro version apparently do, maybe black Friday again and wait with upgrading until then ?

Re: Standard vs Pro

Illumnia wrote:

Hello, I'm new to this forum and to pianoteq in general.

I was wondering whether pro is worth buying, since the price increase is quite significant for me.
* I will use it for recording music *

- Is the 192 kHz necessary for a good recording or will 48 kHz suffice?
- Do you find yourself using the "Note-per-note edit" with it's additional features often?

Thank you in advance!

If you can afford it, Pro is probably more appropriate for recording music since it will allow you to manipulate the sounds in many more ways versus others. However the main non-financial criteria I would use is whether or not you are very interested in manipulating the sounds, because there is a learning curve and you might not need it, especially if you are fine with the relatively raw version and applying effects as needed to the sounds.

Within Pro sample rates are a way of restricting and allowing modeled frequencies that can have an impact on the output sound. I'm not a pro musician or trained engineer, and I don't know how someone from Modartt would describe it, but for me, higher sample rates are my go to when making brighter, more lively tones for my own playing and for reproduction by sound files and equipment of higher quality. Lower sample rates, EQ restrictions, and use of compression work for relative reproducibility on a wide variety monitors.

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Re: Standard vs Pro

BlackForest wrote:

Or use the (cheaper) Stage version to start with 2 piano models.

AFAIK this version never got/gets a discount or special offers. But the Standard and Pro version apparently do, maybe black Friday again and wait with upgrading until then ?

That's also a valid argument, although I like the option to change the mic positions so standard fits my needs a bit better. But thank you for the advice

Re: Standard vs Pro

bani223 wrote:

If you can afford it, Pro is probably more appropriate for recording music since it will allow you to manipulate the sounds in many more ways versus others. However the main non-financial criteria I would use is whether or not you are very interested in manipulating the sounds, because there is a learning curve and you might not need it, especially if you are fine with the relatively raw version and applying effects as needed to the sounds.

Within Pro sample rates are a way of restricting and allowing modeled frequencies that can have an impact on the output sound. I'm not a pro musician or trained engineer, and I don't know how someone from Modartt would describe it, but for me, higher sample rates are my go to when making brighter, more lively tones for my own playing and for reproduction by sound files and equipment of higher quality. Lower sample rates, EQ restrictions, and use of compression work for relative reproducibility on a wide variety monitors.

Fair point! I will go for the more popular route of buying the standard version, and might eventually upgrade to pro since there are no extra costs bundled with that.
Thank you for your thorough explanation and answer!