Hi,
I think all 8.3 Piano presets are more realistic with more energy blooming in design parameters...
I set it to 0.08 or 0.1
and it give at higher velocity more natural treble hammer sound.
Regards,
Olivier
Hi,
I think all 8.3 Piano presets are more realistic with more energy blooming in design parameters...
I set it to 0.08 or 0.1
and it give at higher velocity more natural treble hammer sound.
Energy Blooming? Huh?
I'm not sure what you're talking about.
But i'm curious and would like to give it a try ...
Which parameter or setting do you refer to?
Where exactly is it to be found in Pteq?
I think Olivier is right about the energy bloom. I've been trying it out and, while I'm no expert, I think it really does add a subtle element of realism. I've added it to all my presets. (Maybe also a humanized probability distrubution over a small range around 0.1 would be appropriate?)
It could be a placebo effect but I feel like I'm substantially happier with all of my presets after applying this.
It's definitely something worth trying.
On the right hand side of the main interface, low down the list of Design settings, you see "Blooming" with 2 sliders "Energy" and "Inertia".
Energy set to something I like around 0.06 usually scratches an itch (tend to end up with that setting feeling OK - then try less/more).
To understand what those controls do, check out boosting "Energy" way up, then altering "Inertia" from short times (0.10 second) up to its highest of 3 seconds.. and you can hear the gong-like energy transfer.. giving a kind of 'bwwoaauuwww' (not precisely described.. you hear it when you hear it hehe.)
For some beyond-realism extra-piano presets, you can use that in tandem with 'bowing' and/or 'note FX' attack envelope to get quite seriously detailed soft attacks with some wah or interesting short or long developing tones on attacks.
It's definitely something worth trying.
On the right hand side of the main interface, low down the list of Design settings, you see "Blooming" with 2 sliders "Energy" and "Inertia".
Energy set to something I like around 0.06 usually scratches an itch (tend to end up with that setting feeling OK - then try less/more).
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Oh me oh my, guess it's time for me to take a closer look ...
Didn't realize there are more settings hiding behind the pretty piano pictures ...
'Blooming' is also a great set of parameters to create some exotic instruments in Pianoteq.
In the example below, the Ph. Schmidt historic keyboard (from the Karsten Collection) and the Neupert Clavichord were edited to create a sort of undefined Eastern-ish plucked instrument that has, in some of its notes, a faint sitar-like personality. It's not accurate or anything, but the thing does manage to transport you eastwards, I find.
Next to raising the two Blooming parameters, you also have to raise the Impedance and the Cutoff AND lower the Q-factor, for increased sustain and resonance.
https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f..._Bloom.mp3
A whole other use of the Blooming feature is demonstrated in the demo 'Blooming Grit', on the Vintage Tines demos page.
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Yes, blooming is useful sometimes.
BUT, sometimes presets get a nice feeling with different temperament (I don’t use words ”more realistic”, in my opinion Bösendorfer is as a realistic Bösendorfer)
Try this this somewhat hidden secret:
On the left hand side of the main interface, low down the list of Tuning, click equal temperament, click advanced tuning, click temperament, choose Vallotti&Young, click x (close preset manager). Test by playing some hours…. Learned this from member pianist k c paul Li.
For a certain style of music, this temperament fits well. Here as an exmple with Vallotti&Young, my music where I tried to capture the calm atmosphere late one evening. I like this temperament with this preset and this music. Bösendorfer VC Dreamy.
Beautiful Bösendorfer
https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...0Young.mp3
All the best, everyone
Stig
Oh me oh my, guess it's time for me to take a closer look ...
Didn't realize there are more settings hiding behind the pretty piano pictures ...
Fab
Whatever you do, don't right-click on any of those sliders! - Even more controls
BTW above kawai_user3535 mentioned 'humanized probability' - to try that out.. you can set some of that with right-clicks on various controls, so that Pianoteq doesn't just default to stagnant amounts for the things you set. Not all controls have it, but many do - so you kind of can tailor a kind of loosen up the 'Condition' for various aspects, whilst keeping other things more tight - esp. good if you don't want the condition slider to go too far with out-of-tune elements.. instead, keep tuning perfect, but right-click the various sliders and increase the amount of random behaviours for just the things you want to go more randomly 'not perfect'.
That's an awesome double sound-and-a-half+ there Piet! with a twist of lemon! Like you say mmmmaybe not 1:1 with a physical sitar but actually sounds more inspiring to me than some software sitars.
Absolutely love layers, for making 3 differently edited instruments work together.. like making different attacks/blooms, fussing with extended reverb for one or more layers, echoesechoesechoes and extreme EQs, amp etc and mixing those so that maybe 2 layers are mixed low in volume but give a 'pad' background for one of the layers with kind of a melody focus - it's fun trying to make sounds you haven't heard before.
For Pboy or anyone getting into the idea of checking out what' spossible with all the controls, which can go well beyond subtle too, a totally simplistic way to get started in layers, along those lines.. try loading in 3 layers (any piano you have, even the same one for all 3).. then for each click the 'random' icon. See how absolutely non-piano-like it sounds.. then mix those layers until you hear something you kind of like about those.. then try making a strange piece of music.. imagine it's for a film (a scene where someone walks in a forest at night - or drives in a car in a neon-lit city at night - or a desert island at sunset - whatever takes your imagination).
Absolutely agree too Stig - temperaments can inspire in a lot of different ways. Love those from the past, esp. nice with period era pianos and similar era of music.