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Topic: Portable piano / USB-Audio - P-525 DGX670, FP-90X, FP-60X, other ?

Hi all,

I'm looking for a digital piano that has the following characteristics:
- A portable/lightweight piano with a cabinet for the 3 pedals (permanent installation) - approx 30m2
- Integrated speakers
- USB Audio to support Pianoteq (on iPad mainly, sometime laptop)

So far, I have seen : Yamaha P-525 & DGX670, Roland FP-90X & FP-60X.

I'm mainly interested in piano, so I don't need really need fancy sounds or features. I'm intermediate level, playing every day.

Some questions:
- Do you see big differences in the keyboard actions that justify the price?
- Do you see other products that I should look at (same price range)?
- I have used the Yamaha interface it's automatically recognised (so easy to plug with Pianoteq), is it the same with Roland?
- Any feedback on the long-term usage (parts broken, etc)?

If you have any other remark, do not hesitate. Thanks in advance for your help.

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Re: Portable piano / USB-Audio - P-525 DGX670, FP-90X, FP-60X, other ?

I'd also look at the Yamaha P-515. The P-525 action is different (lighter) than the P515, and not necessarily an improvement over the P515, though I'm sure some folks prefer it. DGX670 and FP-60X actions will be more "entry-level" actions, though both are very serviceable, and better than the action you'll find on much more expensive pianos (e.g. Nord). The FP-90X, P-525, and P-515 actions are considered "premium" tier actions. My personal preference would be the P515 (NWX action), but play for yourself if possible first. Personal preference matters more than anything.

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Re: Portable piano / USB-Audio - P-525 DGX670, FP-90X, FP-60X, other ?

xsti wrote:

I have used the Yamaha interface it's automatically recognised (so easy to plug with Pianoteq), is it the same with Roland?

Yep.

xsti wrote:

Any feedback on the long-term usage (parts broken, etc)?

Both Yamaha and Roland have excellent reputations regarding durability. IIRC, Roland comes with a 10-year warranty. I have an older Roland FP-30 that has been played daily for years, and a Yamaha CP88 (nearly identical action to the P-515) and have played that for the last couple years. No issues with either one, bought both of those used.

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Re: Portable piano / USB-Audio - P-525 DGX670, FP-90X, FP-60X, other ?

miiindbullets wrote:
xsti wrote:

I have used the Yamaha interface it's automatically recognised (so easy to plug with Pianoteq), is it the same with Roland?

Yep.

xsti wrote:

Any feedback on the long-term usage (parts broken, etc)?

Both Yamaha and Roland have excellent reputations regarding durability. IIRC, Roland comes with a 10-year warranty. I have an older Roland FP-30 that has been played daily for years, and a Yamaha CP88 (nearly identical action to the P-515) and have played that for the last couple years. No issues with either one, bought both of those used.

I agree with you the Roland actions are indestructible and they are perfect midi controller . The P525 has got a good action but has some limitations as a midi controller, for instance it sends a fixed value of 64 for note - off velocities ( it is a regression , compared to the P515) but internal sounds are better than Roland’s one , but the most important is the action and that is a personal matter , both Roland PHA-4 and PHA-50 are a bit heavier than P525’one but the level of control on low velocities is outstanding . I own a MP11 and a FP10 when I travel and it is shocking to see that it is way easier to control velocities on the F10 which costs 5x less!

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Re: Portable piano / USB-Audio - P-525 DGX670, FP-90X, FP-60X, other ?

miiindbullets wrote:
xsti wrote:

I have used the Yamaha interface it's automatically recognised (so easy to plug with Pianoteq), is it the same with Roland?

Yep.

xsti wrote:

Any feedback on the long-term usage (parts broken, etc)?

Both Yamaha and Roland have excellent reputations regarding durability. IIRC, Roland comes with a 10-year warranty. I have an older Roland FP-30 that has been played daily for years, and a Yamaha CP88 (nearly identical action to the P-515) and have played that for the last couple years. No issues with either one, bought both of those used.

Roland stage pianos do not come with a 10 year warranty.  Only the HP, LX, GP series come with the 10-year warranty.