Strange noise using 'NY Steinway Model D' preset on A3-C4 and E6

I'm running Pianoteq 8.2 on a Macbook Pro M1. I can hear the noisy sounds using the Macbook speakers and even more so when using headphones. I'll try to record the sound.

It's there indeed.. I think many would agree..

I hear it as resonances (it's near the beginning of un-damped notes). The sympathetic resonances with those higher notes possibly accentuate that res (I hear it from c6 and a few more up).

To me, it's something a real piano does - the 'Model D' default preset is kind of closest (least especially treated) to the Steinway piano which was modelled. It's pretty certain, that an amount of that resonance was present. I don't hear it as bad, probably should add.

If it's definitely unwanted and you kind of can't un-hear it, click the "Equalizer" button, then go to the tabs.. /ResEQ" (and/or the ResDuration).. you can target the 'EQ ranges' of any resonant sounds you wish to attenuate or eliminate, pretty specifically with just that.

You can see the piano roll below, so it's easy as pie to see the range to 'cut'.. maybe just lowering the 'Res Duration' for a notch around those notes could be what you'd like.

Or try turning down the slider "Sympathetic resonance" a little (maybe try first if the above seems daunting).

Or if you're playing like you would a physical piano, perhaps try the 'Player' preset.. or if recording, use ones labelled with "Recording".. as those presets will have had focus on removing things like that... but for sure, each piano has a 'most like the original' preset.. and I definitely consider those like 'world library of piano' presets (snapshot of the thing without too much adjustment for particular use-cases).

Mostly I jump on default presets - and edit how I want - mostly for particular pieces/repertoires.

Hope that helps you get things more like the way you want to use Pianoteq

Ouch, with apologies - I'm really not 100% sure. Have only a short while before I have to zoom off.. but the docs mention 'EQ' in all 3 versions (I don't think I've loaded up a demo of the Stage edition since maybe before the Res features were implemented).

(@support/@Niclas: this is a thing which could be added within the manual.. where it says "EQ".. that may refer to EQ3, and/or Equalizer - cheers!)

Look for "Equalizer" (a large button on the front interface).. when that opens the Equalizer panel, along it's top, you may see little buttons or tabs.. "Res EQ" (short for resonances Equalization) & "Res Dur" (short for resonance duration).

If I get back online later, I'll try find out for sure - but maybe someone with Stage (recent version, with the resonance features) might drop a helpful nay or yeah.

Still my absolute go to piano - so of course I'd say it's worth updating if it's not in Stage ;0)

But about the resonances.. I actually do really like that sound - with everyone having different prefs though.. but, it's possible nobody heard it as a prob during testing etc. I don't - but I guess if I were in a room full of Steinway D pianos to select from, each would have some aspects I may prefer or avoid.. but I can't say how glad I am that Pianoteq is so editable.. I sometimes love to jump from one to another until the right one fits a piece or recording goal. Sometimes I edit some tones out, or some resonances (up/down) and a lot more.. but take your time - it can be a really long-term and absolutely satisfying learning experience, to just try out all the ways you can alter the models.

Also worth adding maybe, check out things like the "Condition" slider.. maybe up a little to something like 4 or 20, to give some more 'swimming' to the elements.. little random loosenings of various piano features might also alter some things to do with resonances.. or raising 'Unison' a little might stop some resonances from staying kind of in a straight line (if that makes sense).

Happy Pianoteq-ing for now

I usually set the key release noise to zero and only left it as the default value for the demonstration, because I wanted to show the effect for the default preset without any modifications. The E6 noise is there also without the key release noise and rather more than less noticeable. It is more like the decaying sound is really odd. Did you try to reproduce the noise I am talking about yourself? I'd be very interested to hear if I am the only one who noticed this. In my perception both the E6 decay noise and the A3-C4 resonance seem very unexpected and not appropriate compared to the sounds of the neighboring notes.

>  Are you saying the A3-C4 sounds different from the other nearby minor 3rds?

Yes, well no, the actual piano sounds are fine, but I hear some kind of ringing in the background when the piano sound starts to fade out, like a cheap phone ringing in the background. It is maybe also there (but less distracting) for some of the thirds directly next to it, but definitely not when playing an octave higher or lower.

> And you're calling middle C C3?

I am talking about middle C and A below it. In my counting middle C would be C4. You can see the keys I am playing in the video (red keys highlighted on the keyboard).

I made another recording with the key release noise turned off:

https://e.pcloud.link/publink/show?code...pEVQnJ81HX

It shows the ringing for the A3-C4 and the weird squeak (also after the piano sound) on E6, but maybe it's just me ;)