Pianoteq 8.2 Guitar. Is it really that good?

I recently uploaded a new video comparison of 8.1.3 vs. 8.2 for guitar acoustic sound. I didn't have time to create piano sounds due to my busy schedule. Next week, I'll create one, including the Organtec.

This time, I really need some opinions about the sound because I am not a guitar player. I don't have any guitar ears whatsoever. For those real guitar players, forgive me if I didn't play well.

What I like about 8.2 is the experience of playing. It is almost impossible for me to play comfortably while producing the full dynamic in the 8.1.3 version. I did try recording in 8.1.3 a few times, and I didn't like it very much. I occasionally hit the same notes over and over. But when I recorded in 8.2, I felt connected to the keyboard and the guitar. The transition between notes is flawless. No double stroke by accident whatsoever.

The painful double-stroke key by accident was clearly present in "All Pianoteq Sounds" before the new 8.2 update. I still remember that I had to edit those double MIDIs that I needed to delete. It's frustrating, but I totally forgot to mention it. Now I feel like a fool, lol. I am really grateful for the Modartt team to have addressed this issue already.

FYI, I did use other VSTs for acoustic guitar, but I can't get the same real experience of playing (key action) as the Pianoteq does. This 8.2 version is groundbreaking.

Here's a few things that I need to address:

1. I use the arpeggio preset instead of the melody preset to deliver the sound that you can hear according to my playing.

2. There's some glitchy disconnected notes sometimes there. It feels like the guitar is "programmed" to play like a real acoustic guitar, where we can only play five or six notes at a particular time. After that, the sounds will be disconnected. If this is natural, then I guess I am the one who needs to adjust my playing.

3. When I play with the guitar piano preset, the sound is already different. I wish I got the same real guitar sounds when I played this preset.

4. Kawai VPC1 doesn't have aftertouch. For other musicians who have other keyboards with aftertouch, I need some feedback on whether you can use it on your keyboard.

5. I wish I had the pitch bend on the left. It's a guitar, after all.

6. The electric guitar sound is not that good, according to my ears. Again, I am not a guitar player. But there's a real electric guitar sound, just like in the Roland Fantom G8, and I think that was sick. I used to play it during gigs, and people loved it. They thought it'd be recorded. Guitar players will definitely get one as well.

7. We need more wider keys for higher notes. If this is not normal on a real acoustic guitar, then just skip this request.

Here's one final request after I play this lovely guitar sound:

To my ears, the way we produce the guitar sounds almost the same as the real acoustic piano. Probably better than piano, in my opinion.

Real acoustic guitars can do slow and deep touch, just like in piano, to get the sound that we like in Nylons guitars. So far, there's no other guitar VST that can deliver it. I did try many of them.

What do you think, fellow Pianoteq users, about all the items that I just mentioned, including the sound?

Feel free to criticize as wild as you like. I like to learn more.

https://youtu.be/8V-xPdlKDe8

Feel free to criticize as wild as you like. I like to learn more.

Good on you dulistan - that is the way.

I would tend to only use virtual nylon when my own is packed, or I'm just doing something quickly.. but, I do find I play my physical guitar less, and the virtual one more, because it's so much quicker to get some basic guitar parts down and mixed.. whereas, with the physical guitar, maybe more takes happen, more tweaking with the levels/which mic/pickup combo or choice and maybe there's more work like treating the take to remove noise I don't want.. the software can be a good swap in many situations.. and I do prefer Pianoteq's guitar to the others like mentioned. There are presets for any use case I used to wish for.

Not criticism - just a fine video - but if wanting something maybe specific and perhaps unique-ish? to chew over, there's a phenomenon I think I noticed over my time, where as maybe someone who is a 'pianist first', one may tend maybe to attack notes earlier (a more strict staccato cadence) than maybe guitarists might? The effect can be subtle, very slight really - aesthetic etc.. but with a guitar there's tension between the finger and string - even if small as it might be, with nail plucking or plectrums even.. can be nothing - but often, it's this pent up tension which delays the moment of attack.. and I notice a more kind of minuscule 'drawing a bow' moment gives some kind of natural lag, to various notes within a given guitar part.. not talking about 'out of time' - but, something which probably falls into 'feel' rather than a notation or tempo/swing set of rules.. just a slightly more elastic movement throughout... whereas with a nice key action and piano style kind of natural to pianists, it can be fun to close eyes and hear 'the guitar', forget you are using piano keys.. put the feel up in front of the more often obvious notion of outputting notes in a pianistic motion - with of course subtle variances.. tiny tiny!! stuff but maybe fun to try to feel what I mean. I'm sure it may mean nothing much on the surface - and I probably can't explain what I mean much better - but hope it gives some enjoyment in deciphering and trying out what you may interpret of that

Cheers and really nicely done!!

Wow, firstly I have to say how much I enjoyed your performance. Love your 'Flamenco remix' version of Fur Elise!