everything but the notes

Not to put text in Glittle's keyboard, but I bet the usage would be for utilizing a different piano or instrument sound -from another module or softsynth/sample- and to just take advantage of Pianoteq's "effects".
Definitely a practical application.  I could see an application where extreme resonance without the piano could be cranked up for playing along with sitar samples/virtual.  The pianoteqnicians could probably create an add-on that was just that -a resonance and extraneous noise generator.

OK, thanks for explaining the "why".  The how part will be a bit harder I think.

If Pianoteq was my creation, I'd smile politely and say I was very  busy working on the sound you want (which is no doubt true).  But if I were to attempt to customize Pianoteq for individual customers, I'd never get anything else done (read a "few" posts and the quantity of requests for various changes soon becomes staggering).

Glenn

C'mon... let me play your cello....  ( actually I only mangle the audio vibrations through the use of various effects -it's highly addictive.  I'm hoping to summon the mother ship with the right output )

This is incredibly interesting because I have been talking to someone who owns Garritan Basic at the moment (through emails) and his impression is that Garritan sounds far superior when it comes to actually sounding like a true piano.  It has a much more real authentic wood sound etc. and he owns both Pianoteq and Garritan Steinway.

That doesn't mean Pianoteq won't get there.  Look at how much they have improved already.  It's only a matter of time I feel.

GLittle - Can you please tell me your honest opinion of the "Playability" of Garritan compared to Pianoteq.  I mean to the enth degree.  does it respond exactly how you expect it to when playing softly and then gradually build to fff?  Can you play a chopin etude and get all dynamic levels on that thing?

I have wasted more money than I want to mention on crappy virtual pianos.  Every one of them is a CD sitting on my shelf except Pianoteq.  I actually just 2 days ago considered buying Garritan Steinway Professional to "layer" with Pianoteq and yet this thread comes up.

I think it's fate .  But even so, I need to know if it dynamically responds well during playback because I can't find anywhere the amount of velocity layers etc.  And I refuse to spend "hours" editing my own piano performance within Logic Studio.  If I can't play it in, I won't record it.

Thanks,

Maestro2be

The comment by maestro2be makes me wonder how many of the people that use samples actually play the piano with them.

As he says, a single note from a good sample sounds very, very good, but even at my level of piano playing, I use more than one note at a time, and quite a few of them consecutively.

I've never played samples, but I've never heard one sample demo (surely they put their best on display) that had the "connectivity" of sound that Pianoteq has.  Most samples aren't even close, and some are terrible.

I use connectivity to describe how different levels of volume, tone, pitch, note length, pedaling, etc fit together to emulate the seamless overall sound that a real piano can produce.  To a very large extent, Pianoteq does this very well, and to a very large extent, samples fail.

I listened to another demo (Synthogy) two days ago - the individual note sound can be great although sometimes it fails miserably for no apparent reason.

But virtually always, there are spots where I detect an anomaly in the flow of sound (a discontinuity or a break, an unexpected change in tone or loudness).

It's somewhat akin to playing a piano with one note very badly out of tune.

Glenn

maestro2b, regarding playability, I'm pretty much on the same page as boehnbr, although perhaps not quite as strongly.  The Garritan Steinway is more playable (as in, it's a musical experience) than other sample-based pianos I've played.  However, I do think pianoteq has the edge just in terms of the feel of playing.  But as I mentioned, I'm doing some recording and even when just playing, the somewhat "oscillator like" or vaguely plastic tone that appears now and then is just as distracting as all the well-discussed issues with the sample libs.

That said, I'm a member of the pianoteq forum for a reason, and believe that in the end it's going to be something well-modeled like the pianoteq that can truly be a musical instrument through and through.  They're getting there.

Regarding the Garritan Steinway, the Basic version doesn't cost too too much.  It's worth considering adding to your collection so you can spend some quality time with it and it may fit the bill.  I have no idea if there's a similarly-priced option with the new Galaxy.

Hi guys, this could be achieved, to some extent, by putting up two PTQ instances, with reverse phases (this is push-button in Reaper), so they basically cancel out each other.
Then in the reverse PTQ instance, turn down the parameters of all the stuff you DO want to hear:
1) Turn off sympth. resonance
2) Turn off note-off noises
etc ...