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Topic: How to connect Kawai CN201 wirelessly

Hello,

I recently bought a Kawai CN201 digital piano. This instrument has a beautiful sound and a quite realistic keyboard, if we compare it with an acoustic piano. However, I would like to expand the number of voices available with the beautiful acoustic piano sound samples available from Pianoteq. To do this, I would like to make the connection completely wireless through the recent Pianoteq app for iOS with a last generation Ipad. Also, I want the sound to be played through the digital piano's speakers or through the headphones connected to it (I almost always use the latter method, since I like the sound from headphones better and prefer not to disturb my neighbors).

The Kawai CN201 has both bluetooth MIDI and bluetooth Audio. The bluetooth standards mentioned by the manufacturer in the user manual are the following:

Bluetooth (Ver. 5.0; GATT compatible)
Bluetooth Low Energy MIDI Specification compliant
Bluetooth Audio (Ver. 5.1; A2DP compatible)

Do you think it could work with low latency?

Thanks in advance.

A cordial greeting,

Raül

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Re: How to connect Kawai CN201 wirelessly

A little Googling:
"Compared to its previous version, Bluetooth 5 transfers data twice as fast and has a range that’s four times larger than Bluetooth 4.2. Bluetooth 5 data transferring speeds max out at 2Mbps. As for latency, the worst you can get is 40 milliseconds. Under ideal conditions, the latency rates drop to 20 milliseconds."
40 ms is a lot... 20 ms, hum... Basically the equivalent of a 7 meters distance. OK for an organ player ;-)

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Re: How to connect Kawai CN201 wirelessly

Raül wrote:

Hello,

I recently bought a Kawai CN201 digital piano. This instrument has a beautiful sound and a quite realistic keyboard, if we compare it with an acoustic piano. However, I would like to expand the number of voices available with the beautiful acoustic piano sound samples available from Pianoteq. To do this, I would like to make the connection completely wireless through the recent Pianoteq app for iOS with a last generation Ipad. Also, I want the sound to be played through the digital piano's speakers or through the headphones connected to it (I almost always use the latter method, since I like the sound from headphones better and prefer not to disturb my neighbors).

The Kawai CN201 has both bluetooth MIDI and bluetooth Audio. The bluetooth standards mentioned by the manufacturer in the user manual are the following:

Bluetooth (Ver. 5.0; GATT compatible)
Bluetooth Low Energy MIDI Specification compliant
Bluetooth Audio (Ver. 5.1; A2DP compatible)

Do you think it could work with low latency?

Thanks in advance.

A cordial greeting,

Raül

Check out WIDI

https://www.gear4music.com/Keyboards-an..._gEALw_wcB

Much fast than Bluetooth

warmest regards,

Chris

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Re: How to connect Kawai CN201 wirelessly

https://www.cme-pro.com/widi-master/#:~...erference.

I've heard good things about WIDI too.

https://youtu.be/fSdt0vuWazQ?feature=shared

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except that with "WIDI", there is no audio... or am I wrong ?

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Re: How to connect Kawai CN201 wirelessly

Luc Henrion wrote:

except that with "WIDI", there is no audio... or am I wrong ?

https://www.cme-pro.com/iwa-instant-wir...io-by-cme/

Warmest regards,

Chris

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sigasa wrote:
Luc Henrion wrote:

except that with "WIDI", there is no audio... or am I wrong ?

https://www.cme-pro.com/iwa-instant-wir...io-by-cme/

Warmest regards,

Chris

Very interesting, thank you !

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Re: How to connect Kawai CN201 wirelessly

Thank you all for your comments, responses and videos. They have been very useful.