Topic: Transitioning from felt to clearer dynamic

Hello

I'm new user of Pianoteq and I love its felted pianos. I want to make the sound less muffled when I press the keys harder. It would be great if it could simulate the effect of removing the felt from the keys (or as if the sound is « opening up »)

Anyone could help me ?

Thank you very much

Last edited by Rover (28-06-2023 00:26)

Re: Transitioning from felt to clearer dynamic

Rover wrote:

Hello

I'm new user of Pianoteq and I love its felted pianos. I want to make the sound less muffled when I press the keys harder. It would be great if it could simulate the effect of removing the felt from the keys (or as if the sound is « opening up »)

Anyone could help me ?

Thank you very much

You can assign a foot pedal to the Celeste pedal and use a non felted preset. You can adjust the  maximum strength of the effect  ( Thickness of the felt inserted between the hammer and the strings) and use the pedal to have felt on or off. I believe it also support variable values assuming your pedal is continuous of not , it will be a on/off effect.

Re: Transitioning from felt to clearer dynamic

Here is another way using only the key velocities with a layer fxp:
Short demo with a portion of a Satie Gnossienne.

https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...sienne.mp3

https://forum.modartt.com/file/bh5dhb58

Last edited by Gilles (28-06-2023 02:09)

Re: Transitioning from felt to clearer dynamic

Would love to see velocity-assignable felt thickness (similar to the hammer hardness controls)! Really cool idea.

Good tips in the thread already. Here's a demonstration of one of the workarounds joannchr mentioned (along with a couple of other ideas to get more sounds from a single preset):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBgC1azWmSU

Re: Transitioning from felt to clearer dynamic

Hello, thank you for all these replies. The pedal track is interesting, but do you know if it is possible to achieve this effect via the velocity curve? what would be interesting would be to make the sound more "raw" when you start to ramp up, when it’s louder.

Thanks again guys

Nota : Sorry for my english, I’m french.

Last edited by Rover (29-06-2023 09:00)

Re: Transitioning from felt to clearer dynamic

Rover wrote:

Hello, thank you for all these replies. The pedal track is interesting, but do you know if it is possible to achieve this effect via the velocity curve? what would be interesting would be to make the sound more "raw" when you start to ramp up, when it’s louder.

Thanks again guys

Nota : Sorry for my english, I’m french.

I'm not aware of a way to do this natively.

Do you happen to use a DAW? A few of them can modulate anything from any source. For example, in Bitwig you'd enable the "expressions" modulator on a Pianoteq device, map velocity to Celeste, and tell Pianoteq to reverse the Celeste pedal. Soft key presses then have lots of felt, and it goes away at higher velocities.

https://i.imgur.com/DInQ0Zl.gif

Looks like velocity can be a modulation source in Ableton (link) and Reaper (link), too. Probably others. Cool idea!

Last edited by miiindbullets (30-06-2023 06:20)

Re: Transitioning from felt to clearer dynamic

Here's an idea of how it can sound. Really fun to play!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OxRUZLaeMk