Topic: I've now got a Casio PX-S5000
And love it.
If anyone has any questions?
Warmest regards
Chris
p.s. initial impressions review to follow...
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REVIEW OF THE CASIO PX-S5000
I just wanted to say a great big thank you for my Casio PX-S5000 portable digital piano. I ordered it yesterday afternoon. It arrived around noon today (Thursday June 29th). I have been playing it on and off this afternoon and evening and absolutely love the feel of he action, the fact that I can play very very softly and control it at these low velocities, and they way it integrates with Modartt's Pianoteq. Casio have put much thought and expertise into the three high end pianos and the action reflects this markedly. I studied piano tuning, maintenance and repair so I have some idea of how a piano should respond to touch. Casio have done a fantastic job. The action is in some ways reminiscent of the original Casio scaled hammer action in the old CDP range in that one can really feel the mechanics, but in the case of the PX-S5000, with more finesse. Also I love the feel of the key bottoming out. It is very definite without being noisy or painful. In this aspect it reminds me of the Roland FP80. And I was pleasantly surprised that the keys when playing toward the fallboard/felt are not as difficult to trigger there as I thought they would be given the short pivot length.
All in all, I'm very impressed with Casios's work. Well done Casio and thank you Anderton's.
Warmest regards,
Christopher Christopher Webber
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REVIEW OF THE CASIO PX-S5000
I just wanted to say a great big thank you for my Casio PX-S5000 portable digital piano. I ordered it yesterday afternoon. It arrived around noon today (Thursday June 29th). I have been playing it on and off this afternoon and evening and absolutely love the feel of he action, the fact that I can play very very softly and control it at these low velocities, and they way it integrates with Modartt's Pianoteq. Casio have put much thought and expertise into the three high end pianos and the action reflects this markedly. I studied piano tuning, maintenance and repair so I have some idea of how a piano should respond to touch. Casio have done a fantastic job. The action is in some ways reminiscent of the original Casio scaled hammer action in the old CDP range in that one can really feel the mechanics, but in the case of the PX-S5000, with more finesse. Also I love the feel of the key bottoming out. It is very definite without being noisy or painful. In this aspect it reminds me of the Roland FP80. And I was pleasantly surprised that the keys when playing toward the fallboard/felt are not as difficult to trigger there as I thought they would be given the short pivot length.
All in all, I'm very impressed with Casios's work. Well done Casio and thank you Anderton's.
Warmest regards,
Christopher Christopher Webber
Chris, I've been considering getting one of the newer Casios (5000, 6000, 7000). I currently use a Roland FP-90x at home for Pianoteq, and a Casio PX-S1000 for live performance. The Roland has better action and a built-in USB audio, so I don't need an audio interface to use Pianoteq. The Casio is lightweight and portable, but does not really lend itself to using Pianoteq, as it requires and external audio interface which is then plugged into the Casio's audio inputs. I'm wondering if the newer Casios might allow me to use Pianoteq directly, via USB audio.
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sigasa wrote:REVIEW OF THE CASIO PX-S5000
I just wanted to say a great big thank you for my Casio PX-S5000 portable digital piano. I ordered it yesterday afternoon. It arrived around noon today (Thursday June 29th). I have been playing it on and off this afternoon and evening and absolutely love the feel of he action, the fact that I can play very very softly and control it at these low velocities, and they way it integrates with Modartt's Pianoteq. Casio have put much thought and expertise into the three high end pianos and the action reflects this markedly. I studied piano tuning, maintenance and repair so I have some idea of how a piano should respond to touch. Casio have done a fantastic job. The action is in some ways reminiscent of the original Casio scaled hammer action in the old CDP range in that one can really feel the mechanics, but in the case of the PX-S5000, with more finesse. Also I love the feel of the key bottoming out. It is very definite without being noisy or painful. In this aspect it reminds me of the Roland FP80. And I was pleasantly surprised that the keys when playing toward the fallboard/felt are not as difficult to trigger there as I thought they would be given the short pivot length.
All in all, I'm very impressed with Casios's work. Well done Casio and thank you Anderton's.
Warmest regards,
Christopher Christopher Webber
Chris, I've been considering getting one of the newer Casios (5000, 6000, 7000). I currently use a Roland FP-90x at home for Pianoteq, and a Casio PX-S1000 for live performance. The Roland has better action and a built-in USB audio, so I don't need an audio interface to use Pianoteq. The Casio is lightweight and portable, but does not really lend itself to using Pianoteq, as it requires and external audio interface which is then plugged into the Casio's audio inputs. I'm wondering if the newer Casios might allow me to use Pianoteq directly, via USB audio.
From the Casio Instruments UK website:
"The Casio PX-S5000 is the newest addition to the incredible PX-S portable Privia piano range.
With a wealth of new technology inside, including Bluetooth Audio streaming, wireless MIDI, enhanced AiR Piano modelling and USB Audio recording, Casio have added even more to their popular ultra-portable piano..."
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sigasa wrote:
larrycalame wrote:sigasa wrote:REVIEW OF THE CASIO PX-S5000
I just wanted to say a great big thank you for my Casio PX-S5000 portable digital piano. I ordered it yesterday afternoon. It arrived around noon today (Thursday June 29th). I have been playing it on and off this afternoon and evening and absolutely love the feel of he action, the fact that I can play very very softly and control it at these low velocities, and they way it integrates with Modartt's Pianoteq. Casio have put much thought and expertise into the three high end pianos and the action reflects this markedly. I studied piano tuning, maintenance and repair so I have some idea of how a piano should respond to touch. Casio have done a fantastic job. The action is in some ways reminiscent of the original Casio scaled hammer action in the old CDP range in that one can really feel the mechanics, but in the case of the PX-S5000, with more finesse. Also I love the feel of the key bottoming out. It is very definite without being noisy or painful. In this aspect it reminds me of the Roland FP80. And I was pleasantly surprised that the keys when playing toward the fallboard/felt are not as difficult to trigger there as I thought they would be given the short pivot length.
All in all, I'm very impressed with Casios's work. Well done Casio and thank you Anderton's.
Warmest regards,
Christopher Christopher Webber
Chris, I've been considering getting one of the newer Casios (5000, 6000, 7000). I currently use a Roland FP-90x at home for Pianoteq, and a Casio PX-S1000 for live performance. The Roland has better action and a built-in USB audio, so I don't need an audio interface to use Pianoteq. The Casio is lightweight and portable, but does not really lend itself to using Pianoteq, as it requires and external audio interface which is then plugged into the Casio's audio inputs. I'm wondering if the newer Casios might allow me to use Pianoteq directly, via USB audio.
From the Casio Instruments UK website:
"The Casio PX-S5000 is the newest addition to the incredible PX-S portable Privia piano range.
With a wealth of new technology inside, including Bluetooth Audio streaming, wireless MIDI, enhanced AiR Piano modelling and USB Audio recording, Casio have added even more to their popular ultra-portable piano..."
I don't know what is meant by "USB audio recording". My question is "can you simply connect a USB cable to a laptop with Pianoteq and have the audio directed to the Casio's speakers, as well as to external speakers attached to the Casio? I can do exactly that on the Roland.
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sigasa wrote:larrycalame wrote:Chris, I've been considering getting one of the newer Casios (5000, 6000, 7000). I currently use a Roland FP-90x at home for Pianoteq, and a Casio PX-S1000 for live performance. The Roland has better action and a built-in USB audio, so I don't need an audio interface to use Pianoteq. The Casio is lightweight and portable, but does not really lend itself to using Pianoteq, as it requires and external audio interface which is then plugged into the Casio's audio inputs. I'm wondering if the newer Casios might allow me to use Pianoteq directly, via USB audio.
From the Casio Instruments UK website:
"The Casio PX-S5000 is the newest addition to the incredible PX-S portable Privia piano range.
With a wealth of new technology inside, including Bluetooth Audio streaming, wireless MIDI, enhanced AiR Piano modelling and USB Audio recording, Casio have added even more to their popular ultra-portable piano..."
I don't know what is meant by "USB audio recording". My question is "can you simply connect a USB cable to a laptop with Pianoteq and have the audio directed to the Casio's speakers, as well as to external speakers attached to the Casio? I can do exactly that on the Roland.
I don't think the Casio PX-S5000 has an audio interface. Therefore this would not be possible.
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You could use the supplied Bluetooth midi/audio adapter, but may find latency a problem. Just a thought.
Warmest regards,
Chris
p.s. the usb midi/audio adapter is supplied with any of the the three high end PX-S series.
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Hello Sigasa,
How it is in comparison with a P515 ?
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sigasa wrote:
[...] the fact that I can play very very softly and control it at these low velocities, and they way it integrates with Modartt's Pianoteq.
Are you playing the PX-S5000 with its normal, factory default velocity and Pianoteq with normal 1:1 Mapping?
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sigasa wrote:larrycalame wrote:Chris, I've been considering getting one of the newer Casios (5000, 6000, 7000). I currently use a Roland FP-90x at home for Pianoteq, and a Casio PX-S1000 for live performance. The Roland has better action and a built-in USB audio, so I don't need an audio interface to use Pianoteq. The Casio is lightweight and portable, but does not really lend itself to using Pianoteq, as it requires and external audio interface which is then plugged into the Casio's audio inputs. I'm wondering if the newer Casios might allow me to use Pianoteq directly, via USB audio.
From the Casio Instruments UK website:
"The Casio PX-S5000 is the newest addition to the incredible PX-S portable Privia piano range.
With a wealth of new technology inside, including Bluetooth Audio streaming, wireless MIDI, enhanced AiR Piano modelling and USB Audio recording, Casio have added even more to their popular ultra-portable piano..."
I don't know what is meant by "USB audio recording". My question is "can you simply connect a USB cable to a laptop with Pianoteq and have the audio directed to the Casio's speakers, as well as to external speakers attached to the Casio? I can do exactly that on the Roland.
I'm sure you can do that. I don't use an audio interface at all and I only have a Roland RP 501, which is much less advanced than the new Casio line in terms of connectivity. I wonder whether Wireless Midi means you don't even need the cable?!?!? Also, wonder whether you could use an iPad or iPhone instead of a laptop for gigs, and whether Pianoteq connects wirelessly from the iPad. All this is so new.
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Hello Sigasa,
How it is in comparison with a P515 ?
Shorter pivot length than P515 but playable with a little adjust on technique. More of a silky feel but at the same time very positive and tactile. More even repetitions possible with the Casio. More even velocity response throughout the entire key range. Can trigger a note by just stabbing gently at the key without following through to end of key Tavel, like on an acoustic. More subtle black note keytop simulation. Nice grippy but smooth feel to resin keytops of both black and white keys.
Hope this helps Borealis,
Warmest regards,
Chris
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sigasa wrote:[...] the fact that I can play very very softly and control it at these low velocities, and they way it integrates with Modartt's Pianoteq.
Are you playing the PX-S5000 with its normal, factory default velocity and Pianoteq with normal 1:1 Mapping?
I haven't really delved into the velocity curves. I'm still playing using default on the Casio and an adjusted linear Ptq curve at the top end to reach 127 easier (0,1 to 100,127). Plays lovely with this.
Hope this is helpful groovy
Warmest regards,
Chris
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I haven't really delved into the velocity curves. I'm still playing using default on the Casio and an adjusted linear Ptq curve at the top end to reach 127 easier (0,1 to 100,127). Plays lovely with this.
Hm, a Pianoteq friendly velocity curve out-of-the-box would be the only reason for me to accept a keyboard with such a short pivot. But this Casio seems to be yet another controller with a MIDI range of ~100 (but hopefully fine resolution at piano/pianissimo).
Thanks for your descriptions, sigasa!
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sigasa wrote:I haven't really delved into the velocity curves. I'm still playing using default on the Casio and an adjusted linear Ptq curve at the top end to reach 127 easier (0,1 to 100,127). Plays lovely with this.
Hm, a Pianoteq friendly velocity curve out-of-the-box would be the only reason for me to accept a keyboard with such a short pivot. But this Casio seems to be yet another controller with a MIDI range of ~100 (but hopefully fine resolution at piano/pianissimo).
Thanks for your descriptions, sigasa!
Just remember, these models have hi resolution midi (16000 levels if I'm not mistaken).
Warmest regards,
Chris
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If they are unable to construct 127 equidistant levels, they probably fail with 16000 levels.
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sigasa wrote:
Borealis wrote:Hello Sigasa,
How it is in comparison with a P515 ?
Shorter pivot length than P515 but playable with a little adjust on technique. More of a silky feel but at the same time very positive and tactile. More even repetitions possible with the Casio. More even velocity response throughout the entire key range. Can trigger a note by just stabbing gently at the key without following through to end of key Tavel, like on an acoustic. More subtle black note keytop simulation. Nice grippy but smooth feel to resin keytops of both black and white keys.
Hope this helps Borealis,
Warmest regards,
Chris
Thanks !
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BarbaraRB wrote:
larrycalame wrote:sigasa wrote:From the Casio Instruments UK website:
"The Casio PX-S5000 is the newest addition to the incredible PX-S portable Privia piano range.
With a wealth of new technology inside, including Bluetooth Audio streaming, wireless MIDI, enhanced AiR Piano modelling and USB Audio recording, Casio have added even more to their popular ultra-portable piano..."
I don't know what is meant by "USB audio recording". My question is "can you simply connect a USB cable to a laptop with Pianoteq and have the audio directed to the Casio's speakers, as well as to external speakers attached to the Casio? I can do exactly that on the Roland.
I'm sure you can do that. I don't use an audio interface at all and I only have a Roland RP 501, which is much less advanced than the new Casio line in terms of connectivity. I wonder whether Wireless Midi means you don't even need the cable?!?!? Also, wonder whether you could use an iPad or iPhone instead of a laptop for gigs, and whether Pianoteq connects wirelessly from the iPad. All this is so new.
I got the answer from the horses mouth a live chat with Casio support. The answer is "no"
Chat started: 2023-07-03 04:07 PM UTC
(04:07:19 PM) Larry Calame: My question is "does the PX-S5000 have a built in USB audio interface?". My Roland FP90X does, so it allows me to connect a USB cable from the Roland to my Microsoft Surface laptop running Pianoteq, which enables me to route the audio from Pianoteq to the Roland's built in sound system. The Pianoteq audio is then heard both thru the Roland speakers as well as any powered speakers connected to the Roland's line outs. Can I do that with the PX-S5000?
(04:08:21 PM) Customer Service: We apologize for keeping you waiting. Our operators are busy at the moment, please leave us a message with your email address and we'll get back to you shortly.
(04:10:53 PM) Larry Calame: my email address is larrycalame@gmail.com
(04:43:06 PM) *** Sal joined the chat ***
(04:43:19 PM) Sal: Hello, and thank you for contacting Casio America. My name is Sal.
(04:44:48 PM) Sal: The USB connection to a computer is used to communicate MIDI data. You cannot communicate audio through the USB port.
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sigasa wrote:
larrycalame wrote:sigasa wrote:From the Casio Instruments UK website:
"The Casio PX-S5000 is the newest addition to the incredible PX-S portable Privia piano range.
With a wealth of new technology inside, including Bluetooth Audio streaming, wireless MIDI, enhanced AiR Piano modelling and USB Audio recording, Casio have added even more to their popular ultra-portable piano..."
I don't know what is meant by "USB audio recording". My question is "can you simply connect a USB cable to a laptop with Pianoteq and have the audio directed to the Casio's speakers, as well as to external speakers attached to the Casio? I can do exactly that on the Roland.
I don't think the Casio PX-S5000 has an audio interface. Therefore this would not be possible.
Thank you. Your assumption was confirmed by chat with Casio support.
Chat started: 2023-07-03 04:07 PM UTC
(04:07:19 PM) Larry Calame: My question is "does the PX-S5000 have a built in USB audio interface?". My Roland FP90X does, so it allows me to connect a USB cable from the Roland to my Microsoft Surface laptop running Pianoteq, which enables me to route the audio from Pianoteq to the Roland's built in sound system. The Pianoteq audio is then heard both thru the Roland speakers as well as any powered speakers connected to the Roland's line outs. Can I do that with the PX-S5000?
(04:08:21 PM) Customer Service: We apologize for keeping you waiting. Our operators are busy at the moment, please leave us a message with your email address and we'll get back to you shortly.
(04:10:53 PM) Larry Calame: my email address is larrycalame@gmail.com
(04:43:06 PM) *** Sal joined the chat ***
(04:43:19 PM) Sal: Hello, and thank you for contacting Casio America. My name is Sal.
(04:44:48 PM) Sal: The USB connection to a computer is used to communicate MIDI data. You cannot communicate audio through the USB port.
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Sigasa, have you compared the PX-S5000 midi velocity performance with the previous PXS1100/3100?
How the PX-S5000 performs with Kontakt pianos like Noire, etc...?!
My experience with the Clp 745(that i´m selling for a portable solution) is that Pianoteq have a more friendly velocity reading than others Piano Plugins, like Kontakt/Keyscape.
Have you experienced that too?
I tried breefly the Px-S7000 and liked the action, lighter(which i prefer, since im more a guitar player than piano) thant the GrandTouch-S on the Clp745.
My eyes are on the Px-S5000 and maybe the Fp10, as my main midi controller...since Roland as a very good "midi response" reputation in their pianos.
Trying to decide.
Very thanks from Brazil.
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otavio.trupe wrote:
Sigasa, have you compared the PX-S5000 midi velocity performance with the previous PXS1100/3100?
How the PX-S5000 performs with Kontakt pianos like Noire, etc...?!
My experience with the Clp 745(that i´m selling for a portable solution) is that Pianoteq have a more friendly velocity reading than others Piano Plugins, like Kontakt/Keyscape.
Have you experienced that too?I tried briefly the Px-S7000 and liked the action, lighter(which i prefer, since im more a guitar player than piano) thant the GrandTouch-S on the Clp745.
My eyes are on the Px-S5000 and maybe the Fp10, as my main midi controller...since Roland as a very good "midi response" reputation in their pianos.
Trying to decide.
Very thanks from Brazil.
Hi otavio.trupe,
I did try the PX-S1100 along side the PX-S7000 (same action as 5000)
The action on the 7000 (6000 and 5000) is noticeably higher quality than that of the 1100. I didn't test the 1100 or with Pianoteq as I wasn't as impressed with the action. I have also tried the PHA-4 action in the Roland FP10 and I preferred the Casio's wood white key action over that too.
I don't have kontakt nor any of their instruments. I cannot comment on that.
My former digital piano, a P515 (Yamaha) was also a wooden white key action. I still have the P515 so I have compared them side by side. The Casio has a much more tactile action as compared to the P515. Going from the Casio back to the P515, the latter feels more spongey, not as much as some digital pianos, but more so than the Casio.
I have been playing the Casio quite a bit since it arrived, with Pianoteq. I am very happy with my purchase.
The Roland FP10 is an ok piano, but I strongly suggest trying it side by side with the Casio PX-S 5000/6000/7000 and both with Pianoteq before you make your final decision.
Finally, I have been listening to Christopher O'Riley's performance of the The Well Tempered Clavier on YouTube where he uses a Casio PX-S 1100 and Pianoteq. His renditions are wonderful.
Warmest regards,
Chris
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Here is a review I just found on the Facebook Casio Group Page:
"Just finished my first gig on my new Casio PX-S7000 piano at Two Friends Patio Restaurant in Key West today, and here's my initial report.
LOOKS: At first glance, it's beautiful. Aesthetically pleasing, it cuts a very different figure from all other digital pianos. From the attached 3-pedal assembly to the wooden legs to the crystal-clear music stand, you know you're in new territory with this instrument. It's available in mustard, black, and white. I got the mustard and I think it looks great.The keys are simulated ivory and the action, while not truly weighted, feels as though it is.
SETUP: Looks aren't the only thing that differentiates this from all the others. The stand takes about 45 minutes to assemble (with clear-cut illustrated directions) and once it's together, you'll want to leave it that way. The piano sits very comfortably and safely on top of it, and the pedal cord clamps to one of the support bars which hold the pedal assembly to the piano itself. So, no more pedal cord on the floor. In fact, no more pedal on the floor, moving around inconveniently. These pedals (and there are 3!) are stationary, as they should be. Furthermore, the stand is conveniently out of the way of my legs, unlike those X-shaped stands that currently proliferate the scene.
LOADING: The piano and the stand will probably require separate trips to and from the car (they did with me, anyway). And the stand is H-E-A-V-Y. Heavier than the piano, actually. The piano weighs about 32 lbs while the stand is around 38 lbs. Also, the stand takes up major room in the back of my station wagon (or, mini-SUV, as some call it). Also, the stand should be removed first and placed on the stage so the piano can be brought in and slip right onto it.
SOUND: Ahhh-h-h-h. This is what it's all about, and the Casio PX S7000 delivers. In spades. There are 39 acoustic piano sounds in all, most of them grands, almost all of them sensational. They have one called a New York Grand (sampled Steinway) and a Berlin Grand (sampled Bechstein) that are just to die for. Each of these has a regular version, a bright version, and a mellow version. Even the default sound, the Privia Grand, is terrific. There are also around 50 electric pianos of every conceivable stripe, so you electric piano fans should be more than satisfied. Myself, I just want an instrument that delivers beautiful piano and electric piano sounds and this is it. In addition, the PX-S7000 features over 25 organ sounds, 20 guitars, 20 strings, 16 brass, wind, synths, drums, special effects, etc. It has 400 different sounds in all. Many of the sounds measure up to the pianos, electric pianos, and organs, but many don't. That's okay, though, because I'm not really a synth player anyway. One exception is the acoustic basses. Over a dozen of them in every conceivable iteration and they all sound above average, some way above average.
PERFORMANCE: I tuned in to this aspect of it very closely because my previous digital pianos had problems in the upper register, starting about 2½ octaves above middle C. The notes would tend to drop off in presence and volume and the higher on the keyboard you went, the worse it got. But I'm pleased to say the PX-S7000 delivers a clean, consistent sound and touch all the way up the keyboard when played through my sound system. Even the highest octave can be played and it will sound good. This is a major achievement for digital pianos, in my opinion. There are a lot of other functions this piano performs, such as recording, bluetooth, and many others which I haven't as yet gotten into, so I can't comment on them.
PRICE: $2699 on Amazon, but that price is pretty consistent across the retail board. I chose Amazon because it had 2-day free delivery. Yes, it's expensive, but I think I can say it will be the last digital piano I will ever own. Well worth it."
Mike Dennis
Hope you find it helpful octavio-trupe,
Warmest regards,
Chris
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sigasa wrote:
otavio.trupe wrote:Sigasa, have you compared the PX-S5000 midi velocity performance with the previous PXS1100/3100?
How the PX-S5000 performs with Kontakt pianos like Noire, etc...?!
My experience with the Clp 745(that i´m selling for a portable solution) is that Pianoteq have a more friendly velocity reading than others Piano Plugins, like Kontakt/Keyscape.
Have you experienced that too?I tried briefly the Px-S7000 and liked the action, lighter(which i prefer, since im more a guitar player than piano) thant the GrandTouch-S on the Clp745.
My eyes are on the Px-S5000 and maybe the Fp10, as my main midi controller...since Roland as a very good "midi response" reputation in their pianos.
Trying to decide.
Very thanks from Brazil.
Hi otavio.trupe,
I did try the PX-S1100 along side the PX-S7000 (same action as 5000)
The action on the 7000 (6000 and 5000) is noticeably higher quality than that of the 1100. I didn't test the 1100 or with Pianoteq as I wasn't as impressed with the action. I have also tried the PHA-4 action in the Roland FP10 and I preferred the Casio's wood white key action over that too.
I don't have kontakt nor any of their instruments. I cannot comment on that.
My former digital piano, a P515 (Yamaha) was also a wooden white key action. I still have the P515 so I have compared them side by side. The Casio has a much more tactile action as compared to the P515. Going from the Casio back to the P515, the latter feels more spongey, not as much as some digital pianos, but more so than the Casio.
I have been playing the Casio quite a bit since it arrived, with Pianoteq. I am very happy with my purchase.
The Roland FP10 is an ok piano, but I strongly suggest trying it side by side with the Casio PX-S 5000/6000/7000 and both with Pianoteq before you make your final decision.
Finally, I have been listening to Christopher O'Riley's performance of the The Well Tempered Clavier on YouTube where he uses a Casio PX-S 1100 and Pianoteq. His renditions are wonderful.
Warmest regards,
Chris
Nice to hear, Chris.
I believe that my keys on the CLp745 are somewhat similar with the action on the P515. (I like the keys on Clp745, a bit heavy for my skills but its a very good action)
I really enjoy the lighter touch on the Pxs7000 that i tried, do.
If you dont mind to awnser....Are you selling the p515? Why choose another keyboard?
Best regards, Otavio
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otavio.trupe wrote:
sigasa wrote:otavio.trupe wrote:Sigasa, have you compared the PX-S5000 midi velocity performance with the previous PXS1100/3100?
How the PX-S5000 performs with Kontakt pianos like Noire, etc...?!
My experience with the Clp 745(that i´m selling for a portable solution) is that Pianoteq have a more friendly velocity reading than others Piano Plugins, like Kontakt/Keyscape.
Have you experienced that too?I tried briefly the Px-S7000 and liked the action, lighter(which i prefer, since im more a guitar player than piano) thant the GrandTouch-S on the Clp745.
My eyes are on the Px-S5000 and maybe the Fp10, as my main midi controller...since Roland as a very good "midi response" reputation in their pianos.
Trying to decide.
Very thanks from Brazil.
Hi otavio.trupe,
I did try the PX-S1100 along side the PX-S7000 (same action as 5000)
The action on the 7000 (6000 and 5000) is noticeably higher quality than that of the 1100. I didn't test the 1100 or with Pianoteq as I wasn't as impressed with the action. I have also tried the PHA-4 action in the Roland FP10 and I preferred the Casio's wood white key action over that too.
I don't have kontakt nor any of their instruments. I cannot comment on that.
My former digital piano, a P515 (Yamaha) was also a wooden white key action. I still have the P515 so I have compared them side by side. The Casio has a much more tactile action as compared to the P515. Going from the Casio back to the P515, the latter feels more spongey, not as much as some digital pianos, but more so than the Casio.
I have been playing the Casio quite a bit since it arrived, with Pianoteq. I am very happy with my purchase.
The Roland FP10 is an ok piano, but I strongly suggest trying it side by side with the Casio PX-S 5000/6000/7000 and both with Pianoteq before you make your final decision.
Finally, I have been listening to Christopher O'Riley's performance of the The Well Tempered Clavier on YouTube where he uses a Casio PX-S 1100 and Pianoteq. His renditions are wonderful.
Warmest regards,
Chris
Nice to hear, Chris.
I believe that my keys on the CLp745 are somewhat similar with the action on the P515. (I like the keys on Clp745, a bit heavy for my skills but its a very good action)
I really enjoy the lighter touch on the Pxs7000 that i tried, do.If you dont mind to awnser....Are you selling the p515? Why choose another keyboard?
Best regards, Otavio
I needed a lighter keyboard as I'd been asked to play at my local church and wanted something I could transport easily. I have the Casio back pack carrying case so I can take ut on the bus if I need to.
I have given the P515 to a good friend. Besides, I don't have room for both anyway.
All the best with your decision Otavio,
Warmest regards,
Chris
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sigasa wrote:
otavio.trupe wrote:sigasa wrote:Hi otavio.trupe,
I did try the PX-S1100 along side the PX-S7000 (same action as 5000)
The action on the 7000 (6000 and 5000) is noticeably higher quality than that of the 1100. I didn't test the 1100 or with Pianoteq as I wasn't as impressed with the action. I have also tried the PHA-4 action in the Roland FP10 and I preferred the Casio's wood white key action over that too.
I don't have kontakt nor any of their instruments. I cannot comment on that.
My former digital piano, a P515 (Yamaha) was also a wooden white key action. I still have the P515 so I have compared them side by side. The Casio has a much more tactile action as compared to the P515. Going from the Casio back to the P515, the latter feels more spongey, not as much as some digital pianos, but more so than the Casio.
I have been playing the Casio quite a bit since it arrived, with Pianoteq. I am very happy with my purchase.
The Roland FP10 is an ok piano, but I strongly suggest trying it side by side with the Casio PX-S 5000/6000/7000 and both with Pianoteq before you make your final decision.
Finally, I have been listening to Christopher O'Riley's performance of the The Well Tempered Clavier on YouTube where he uses a Casio PX-S 1100 and Pianoteq. His renditions are wonderful.
Warmest regards,
Chris
Nice to hear, Chris.
I believe that my keys on the CLp745 are somewhat similar with the action on the P515. (I like the keys on Clp745, a bit heavy for my skills but its a very good action)
I really enjoy the lighter touch on the Pxs7000 that i tried, do.If you dont mind to awnser....Are you selling the p515? Why choose another keyboard?
Best regards, Otavio
I needed a lighter keyboard as I'd been asked to play at my local church and wanted something I could transport easily. I have the Casio back pack carrying case so I can take ut on the bus if I need to.
I have given the P515 to a good friend. Besides, I don't have room for both anyway.
All the best with your decision Otavio,
Warmest regards,
Chris
Nice, Chris!
You are a very good friend.
Best regards, Otávio.
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The other day I tried different digital pianos.
The Casio PX-S5000/6000 played quite dynamic, much more than the GP series (510/310), Yamaha P515, CP88, Clavia Stage, and others I checked out (in store, thus with internal sound generation not Pianoteq, all via headphones Austrian Audio X60). Personally, I found the keyboard of the GP series more precise (repetitions, trills).
Want to check out the PX-S with Pianoteq, how they play together.
Cheers,
Steff
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steff3 wrote:
The other day I tried different digital pianos.
The Casio PX-S5000/6000 played quite dynamic, much more than the GP series (510/310), Yamaha P515, CP88, Clavia Stage, and others I checked out (in store, thus with internal sound generation not Pianoteq, all via headphones Austrian Audio X60). Personally, I found the keyboard of the GP series more precise (repetitions, trills).
Want to check out the PX-S with Pianoteq, how they play together.
Cheers,
Steff
Ask the store if you can hook up the PX-S5000/6000 up with your computer/tab running Ptq. They should be amenable if they think they may make a sale!
My P515 has gone now. My friends Matt and Sue picked it up. Matt also played the PX-S5000 with Pianoteq Steinway D and he loved it.
I currently have the following velocity settings;
CASIO:
Slightly Lighter setting
PTQ:
Velocity = [0, 120; 1, 127]
Feel free to try these settings.
Warmest regards,
Chris
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One of my favorite Pianoteq demos happens to feature the PX-S6000 as the controller. Not sure that really helps anyone making a purchasing decision, but it's fun to watch!
https://youtu.be/432LqGkBMg4
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miiindbullets wrote:
One of my favorite Pianoteq demos happens to feature the PX-S6000 as the controller. Not sure that really helps anyone making a purchasing decision, but it's fun to watch!
https://youtu.be/432LqGkBMg4
It seems that the Px-S6000 is transmiting the full range 0-127, as we can see his Velocity TAB.
Nice!!!
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miiindbullets wrote:
One of my favorite Pianoteq demos happens to feature the PX-S6000 as the controller. Not sure that really helps anyone making a purchasing decision, but it's fun to watch!
https://youtu.be/432LqGkBMg4
I think it's a good sign that the player in the demo is using the default PTQ velocity curve
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I think it's a good sign that the player in the demo is using the default PTQ velocity curve
Agreed. He does a little Q&A about the action here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zCNtCTQh3o
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larrycalame wrote:
sigasa wrote:larrycalame wrote:I don't know what is meant by "USB audio recording". My question is "can you simply connect a USB cable to a laptop with Pianoteq and have the audio directed to the Casio's speakers, as well as to external speakers attached to the Casio? I can do exactly that on the Roland.
I don't think the Casio PX-S5000 has an audio interface. Therefore this would not be possible.
Thank you. Your assumption was confirmed by chat with Casio support.
Chat started: 2023-07-03 04:07 PM UTC
(04:07:19 PM) Larry Calame: My question is "does the PX-S5000 have a built in USB audio interface?". My Roland FP90X does, so it allows me to connect a USB cable from the Roland to my Microsoft Surface laptop running Pianoteq, which enables me to route the audio from Pianoteq to the Roland's built in sound system. The Pianoteq audio is then heard both thru the Roland speakers as well as any powered speakers connected to the Roland's line outs. Can I do that with the PX-S5000?
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(04:44:48 PM) Sal: The USB connection to a computer is used to communicate MIDI data. You cannot communicate audio through the USB port.
Usb is a digital connection. If One can record audio over USB that is an audio interface of some sort. I.E. a digital audio connection to a computer. My guess is customer service made a "mistake". I would download and check the manual.
My Yamaha DGX-670 has such an interface and it is extremely useful. I can connect an Ipad air via the camera adapter and the standard usb printer connection and I get midi sent to the the Ipad and Ptq digital audio back via the same connection. I can even mix the received Ptq audio with the Yamaha and hear both over its internal speakers although there is a bit of latency and only 44100 khz is allowed.
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levinite wrote:
Usb is a digital connection. If One can record audio over USB that is an audio interface of some sort. I.E. a digital audio connection to a computer. My guess is customer service made a "mistake". I would download and check the manual.
My Yamaha DGX-670 has such an interface and it is extremely useful. I can connect an Ipad air via the camera adapter and the standard usb printer connection and I get midi sent to the the Ipad and Ptq digital audio back via the same connection. I can even mix the received Ptq audio with the Yamaha and hear both over its internal speakers although there is a bit of latency and only 44100 khz is allowed.
The manual just mentions USB MIDI (at least for the PX-S6000). You do have the option to save recordings as audio files to a USB flash drive, but it doesn't appear to send real-time audio over USB.
Yamaha and Roland have been integrating audio interfaces into most of their recent-ish keyboards/DPs, StudioLogic did it as well with the Numa X GT. Seems like an opportunity for Casio in their next revision!
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Some companies -- and I think that includes both Casio and Kawai among others -- have just never supported audio over USB for whatever reason while other companies have been doing it for years. I wouldn't necessarily expect their next models to suddenly add it. It could just be a product philosophy, or it could be that they've standardized on a particular off-the-shelf USB or some other chip that doesn't support audio and don't want to have to redesign their software and/or circuit boards or mess with their supply chains. Maybe they've got warehouses full of the chips that only support MIDI and don't want to waste them :). I'm just speculating. Who knows?
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miiindbullets wrote:
levinite wrote:Usb is a digital connection. If One can record audio over USB that is an audio interface of some sort. I.E. a digital audio connection to a computer. My guess is customer service made a "mistake". I would download and check the manual.
My Yamaha DGX-670 has such an interface and it is extremely useful. I can connect an Ipad air via the camera adapter and the standard usb printer connection and I get midi sent to the the Ipad and Ptq digital audio back via the same connection. I can even mix the received Ptq audio with the Yamaha and hear both over its internal speakers although there is a bit of latency and only 44100 khz is allowed.
The manual just mentions USB MIDI (at least for the PX-S6000). You do have the option to save recordings as audio files to a USB flash drive, but it doesn't appear to send real-time audio over USB.
Yamaha and Roland have been integrating audio interfaces into most of their recent-ish keyboards/DPs, StudioLogic did it as well with the Numa X GT. Seems like an opportunity for Casio in their next revision!
Thanks, that clears it up. So one can record to a usb stick.
Still, even without an interface it should be possible to send midi from the Casio to a pc with Ptq, and then send the audio to the audio input of the Casio and its speakers (even the PX-1000 does this). It will still be only an issue of quality and latency. One can then turn off the Casio speakers and its internal sounds and connect amplified speakers to the Casio audio outputs for Ptq sound. Actually, the latency will only depend on the midi and Ptq's processing of it since analog connections have virtually zero latency.
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Thanks, that clears it up. Still, even without an interface it should be possible to send midi from the Casio to a pc with Ptq or other software, and then send the audio to the audio input of the Casio and its speakers (even the PX-1000 does this). It will still be only an issue of quality and latency.
There's also a small chance of an electrical ground loop where you might get hum in the audio when you have more than one connection between the PC and the keyboard.
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kanefsky wrote:
Some companies -- and I think that includes both Casio and Kawai among others -- have just never supported audio over USB for whatever reason while other companies have been doing it for years. I wouldn't necessarily expect their next models to suddenly add it. It could just be a product philosophy, or it could be that they've standardized on a particular off-the-shelf USB or some other chip that doesn't support audio and don't want to have to redesign their software and/or circuit boards or mess with their supply chains. Maybe they've got warehouses full of the chips that only support MIDI and don't want to waste them . I'm just speculating. Who knows?
I think Pianoteq's support for the Iphone and Ipad may make them think twice. These give a possible
totally wireless hum free and fairly low latency connection even now that may catch on.
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I think Pianoteq's support for the Iphone and Ipad may make them think twice. These give a possible
totally wireless hum free and fairly low latency connection even now that may catch on.
One can dream . I wish there were more alternatives to the VPC1 that didn't include any sound generation or speakers at all but just a nice flat top to rest your choice of speakers and a computer or tablet (which can also double as a sheet music display device). There's the Vidal but that's somewhat experimental and still vaporware at this point.
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miiindbullets wrote:
levinite wrote:Usb is a digital connection. If One can record audio over USB that is an audio interface of some sort. I.E. a digital audio connection to a computer. My guess is customer service made a "mistake". I would download and check the manual.
My Yamaha DGX-670 has such an interface and it is extremely useful. I can connect an Ipad air via the camera adapter and the standard usb printer connection and I get midi sent to the the Ipad and Ptq digital audio back via the same connection. I can even mix the received Ptq audio with the Yamaha and hear both over its internal speakers although there is a bit of latency and only 44100 khz is allowed.
The manual just mentions USB MIDI (at least for the PX-S6000). You do have the option to save recordings as audio files to a USB flash drive, but it doesn't appear to send real-time audio over USB.
Yamaha and Roland have been integrating audio interfaces into most of their recent-ish keyboards/DPs, StudioLogic did it as well with the Numa X GT. Seems like an opportunity for Casio in their next revision!
That's what I found also. I asked because I am currently using a Roland FP-90X and really appreciate the USB audio feature
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levinite wrote:
miiindbullets wrote:levinite wrote:Usb is a digital connection. If One can record audio over USB that is an audio interface of some sort. I.E. a digital audio connection to a computer. My guess is customer service made a "mistake". I would download and check the manual.
My Yamaha DGX-670 has such an interface and it is extremely useful. I can connect an Ipad air via the camera adapter and the standard usb printer connection and I get midi sent to the the Ipad and Ptq digital audio back via the same connection. I can even mix the received Ptq audio with the Yamaha and hear both over its internal speakers although there is a bit of latency and only 44100 khz is allowed.
The manual just mentions USB MIDI (at least for the PX-S6000). You do have the option to save recordings as audio files to a USB flash drive, but it doesn't appear to send real-time audio over USB.
Yamaha and Roland have been integrating audio interfaces into most of their recent-ish keyboards/DPs, StudioLogic did it as well with the Numa X GT. Seems like an opportunity for Casio in their next revision!
Thanks, that clears it up. So one can record to a usb stick.
Still, even without an interface it should be possible to send midi from the Casio to a pc with Ptq, and then send the audio to the audio input of the Casio and its speakers (even the PX-1000 does this). It will still be only an issue of quality and latency. One can then turn off the Casio speakers and its internal sounds and connect amplified speakers to the Casio audio outputs for Ptq sound. Actually, the latency will only depend on the midi and Ptq's processing of it since analog connections have virtually zero latency.
I have a PX-S1000 and have configured it to route PTQ audio to the Casio audio inputs as you describe. With an audio interface it worked fine. Alas, Casio has removed the audio inputs on later models 1100,5000,6000,7000 so that is no longer an option
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larrycalame wrote:
levinite wrote:miiindbullets wrote:The manual just mentions USB MIDI (at least for the PX-S6000). You do have the option to save recordings as audio files to a USB flash drive, but it doesn't appear to send real-time audio over USB.
Yamaha and Roland have been integrating audio interfaces into most of their recent-ish keyboards/DPs, StudioLogic did it as well with the Numa X GT. Seems like an opportunity for Casio in their next revision!
Thanks, that clears it up. So one can record to a usb stick.
Still, even without an interface it should be possible to send midi from the Casio to a pc with Ptq, and then send the audio to the audio input of the Casio and its speakers (even the PX-1000 does this). It will still be only an issue of quality and latency. One can then turn off the Casio speakers and its internal sounds and connect amplified speakers to the Casio audio outputs for Ptq sound. Actually, the latency will only depend on the midi and Ptq's processing of it since analog connections have virtually zero latency.I have a PX-S1000 and have configured it to route PTQ audio to the Casio audio inputs as you describe. With an audio interface it worked fine. Alas, Casio has removed the audio inputs on later models 1100,5000,6000,7000 so that is no longer an option
Casio need to hurry up in this department.
Yamaha is putting audio interface(with asio) in almost all keyboard/pianos. (Easier to them since they own Steinberg)
Roland and Korg are puting a usb audio path too, but i think without the Asio driver.
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I have a CLP 725 and find the action very good, though I don't really enjoy the hard dull thud as the keys go down. I've just bought a Casio Px-s5000 which has a somewhat lighter action. The onboard sound of the Casio is not great to my ears; better than the 110 and 360 but not much. Some unkind person mentioned a toy piano, and I know what he meant. However, with Pianoteq the Casio is fine, and as for the action, well I love it! It's just "nice" to play and the "hammer effect" is not bad at all. But how do retailers/reviewers manipulate the sound of digital pianos to make it sound so good? I'd love to know.
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Panicking Ant wrote:
The onboard sound of the Casio is not great to my ears; better than the 110 and 360 but not much. Some unkind person mentioned a toy piano, and I know what he meant. However, with Pianoteq the Casio is fine, and as for the action, well I love it! It's just "nice" to play and the "hammer effect" is not bad at all. But how do retailers/reviewers manipulate the sound of digital pianos to make it sound so good? I'd love to know.
Are you comparing the direct audio from these pianos or what you hear through built-in or external speakers? To my ears, the samples or models in most modern digital pianos sound pretty good directly through headphones. The direct audio from the piano is what is demonstrated in most reviews, I think.
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Panicking Ant wrote:
I have a CLP 725 and find the action very good, though I don't really enjoy the hard dull thud as the keys go down. I've just bought a Casio Px-s5000 which has a somewhat lighter action. The onboard sound of the Casio is not great to my ears; better than the 110 and 360 but not much. Some unkind person mentioned a toy piano, and I know what he meant. However, with Pianoteq the Casio is fine, and as for the action, well I love it! It's just "nice" to play and the "hammer effect" is not bad at all. But how do retailers/reviewers manipulate the sound of digital pianos to make it sound so good? I'd love to know.
Congratulations on your new PX-S 5000
Warmest regards,
Chris
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Panicking Ant wrote:I have a CLP 725 and find the action very good, though I don't really enjoy the hard dull thud as the keys go down. I've just bought a Casio Px-s5000 which has a somewhat lighter action. The onboard sound of the Casio is not great to my ears; better than the 110 and 360 but not much. Some unkind person mentioned a toy piano, and I know what he meant. However, with Pianoteq the Casio is fine, and as for the action, well I love it! It's just "nice" to play and the "hammer effect" is not bad at all. But how do retailers/reviewers manipulate the sound of digital pianos to make it sound so good? I'd love to know.
Congratulations on your new PX-S 5000
Warmest regards,
Chris
I'm using...
Velocity= [0, 30, 125; 1, 40, 127]
... at the moment with Casio's touch set to 'Slightly Lighter' (i.e. Light 1).
Warmest regards,
Chris
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This short soundcheck video was recorded live via my mobile phone. I used the Open Camera App. It's not a brilliant recording as compared to what it actually sounds like in the room (which is very good), but it gives some idea.
I'm using an altered Steinway preset. I'll post the .fxp and velocity curve if anyone is interested.
Warmest regards to all,
Chris
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Hello everyone
I currently have a Casio PX-S1000. It is reasonably ok. The built-in sound is a bit lifeless and closed. That's why I often use Pianoteq. But for this the PX-S1000 is not bad but not really perfect. I have very little space, so I need a piano that is as slim as possible.
Does the PX-S5000 offer more in this respect?
- Is the built-in piano sound as good as the PX-S6000/7000?
- Does it support Note Off Velocity (the PX-S1000 does not)?
- Does it support continuous pedal data (the PX-S1000 does not)?
- Is it basically a recommendable piano to work with Pianoteq even after prolonged use?
Thanks for your thoughts on this.
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thowe wrote:
Hello everyone
I currently have a Casio PX-S1000. It is reasonably ok. The built-in sound is a bit lifeless and closed. That's why I often use Pianoteq. But for this the PX-S1000 is not bad but not really perfect. I have very little space, so I need a piano that is as slim as possible.
Does the PX-S5000 offer more in this respect?
- Is the built-in piano sound as good as the PX-S6000/7000?
- Does it support Note Off Velocity (the PX-S1000 does not)?
- Does it support continuous pedal data (the PX-S1000 does not)?
- Is it basically a recommendable piano to work with Pianoteq even after prolonged use?Thanks for your thoughts on this.
I also have a PX-S1000 and I'm interested in the 5000, so I'll be following any feedback you get on this. I intend to get my hands on a 5000 from Guitar Center in a few weeks to compare them side by side. I'll have to buy a 5000 to do that, but their 45 day return policy will allow me to reject the 5000 at no net cost if it's not a sufficient upgrade.
PS - the 1000 does support half pedaling if used with their triple pedal unit, the SP-34.
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thowe wrote:
Hello everyone
I currently have a Casio PX-S1000. It is reasonably ok. The built-in sound is a bit lifeless and closed. That's why I often use Pianoteq. But for this the PX-S1000 is not bad but not really perfect. I have very little space, so I need a piano that is as slim as possible.
Does the PX-S5000 offer more in this respect?
- Is the built-in piano sound as good as the PX-S6000/7000?
- Does it support Note Off Velocity (the PX-S1000 does not)?
- Does it support continuous pedal data (the PX-S1000 does not)?
- Is it basically a recommendable piano to work with Pianoteq even after prolonged use?Thanks for your thoughts on this.
PX-S5000
Note off velocity ✓
I use with Pianoteq 8. Much better than internal pianos.
I use a Roland triple pedal with an audiofront usb adapter. Works a treat. Continuous and accurate.
(I have the Casio triple pedal but haven't tried it yet - will use it when gigging as fits in case).
Superior action to the lower priced models (PX-S1000/1100, 3000/31000). Smoother feel.
Hope this helps.
Warmest regards,
Chris
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sigasa wrote:
thowe wrote:Hello everyone
I currently have a Casio PX-S1000. It is reasonably ok. The built-in sound is a bit lifeless and closed. That's why I often use Pianoteq. But for this the PX-S1000 is not bad but not really perfect. I have very little space, so I need a piano that is as slim as possible.
Does the PX-S5000 offer more in this respect?
- Is the built-in piano sound as good as the PX-S6000/7000?
- Does it support Note Off Velocity (the PX-S1000 does not)?
- Does it support continuous pedal data (the PX-S1000 does not)?
- Is it basically a recommendable piano to work with Pianoteq even after prolonged use?Thanks for your thoughts on this.
PX-S5000
Note off velocity ✓
I use with Pianoteq 8. Much better than internal pianos.
I use a Roland triple pedal with an audiofront usb adapter. Works a treat. Continuous and accurate.
(I have the Casio triple pedal but haven't tried it yet - will use it when gigging as fits in case).Superior action to the lower priced models (PX-S1000/1100, 3000/31000). Smoother feel.
Hope this helps.
Warmest regards,
Chris
Congrats Chris on your new acquisition and thanks for all the feedback.
I also liked the touch of the high-end privias but found it a bit on the light side, a bit lighter than what I prefer.
Good to know the it sends note-off MIDI, although I wonder what it actually does in Pianoteq since I've tried a lot and couldn't find any remarkable difference when changing the Velocity-Off curve (within Pianoteq).
I understand note-off velocity triggers perhaps release samples in sampled pianos but not sure how it's implemented in Pianoteq, I think there's no release parameter whatsoever..
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Pianoteq 8 Pro (all instruments) + Organteq 2
i7 4790K W11 64bits + UMC1820 + MTM + DT770 pro X
http://youtube.com/DavidIzquierdoAzzouz
Pianoteq 8 Pro (all instruments) + Organteq 2
i7 4790K W11 64bits + UMC1820 + MTM + DT770 pro X
http://youtube.com/DavidIzquierdoAzzouz
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Re: I've now got a Casio PX-S5000
davidizquierdo82 wrote:
sigasa wrote:thowe wrote:Hello everyone
I currently have a Casio PX-S1000. It is reasonably ok. The built-in sound is a bit lifeless and closed. That's why I often use Pianoteq. But for this the PX-S1000 is not bad but not really perfect. I have very little space, so I need a piano that is as slim as possible.
Does the PX-S5000 offer more in this respect?
- Is the built-in piano sound as good as the PX-S6000/7000?
- Does it support Note Off Velocity (the PX-S1000 does not)?
- Does it support continuous pedal data (the PX-S1000 does not)?
- Is it basically a recommendable piano to work with Pianoteq even after prolonged use?Thanks for your thoughts on this.
PX-S5000
Note off velocity ✓
I use with Pianoteq 8. Much better than internal pianos.
I use a Roland triple pedal with an audiofront usb adapter. Works a treat. Continuous and accurate.
(I have the Casio triple pedal but haven't tried it yet - will use it when gigging as fits in case).Superior action to the lower priced models (PX-S1000/1100, 3000/31000). Smoother feel.
Hope this helps.
Warmest regards,
Chris
Congrats Chris on your new acquisition and thanks for all the feedback.
I also liked the touch of the high-end privias but found it a bit on the light side, a bit lighter than what I prefer.
Good to know the it sends note-off MIDI, although I wonder what it actually does in Pianoteq since I've tried a lot and couldn't find any remarkable difference when changing the Velocity-Off curve (within Pianoteq).
I understand note-off velocity triggers perhaps release samples in sampled pianos but not sure how it's implemented in Pianoteq, I think there's no release parameter whatsoever..
Thank you David,
Warmest regards,
Chris