Undamped strings resonance, is it possible? Help please

Been all evening trying several adjustments and seems like Pianoteq is capable of reproducing the effect what I'm after, only issue is that it comes with further undesired nuances, let me explain:

I've tried to crank the "Sympathetic Resonance" slider all the way up to 4.20 and also added some good deal of "Duplex Scale", about up to 5, now play stacatto and hear the effect I'm talking about, also playing several notes without any sustain pedal results in that specific sound I'm looking for.

It's a bit exagerated here but it serves for the purpose of investigating and trying, I'd eventually adjust it to a more subtle effect.

Now the issue comes when using the sustain pedal, undamping all notes results in a way resonant sound, too dense, it improves a bit if I adjust "Damping Duration" to 0.80, less than that would start to sound awkward.

Still no trick around for this, I'd assume the problem is that other resonances which are included in the "Sympathetic Resonance" pack are simultaneously increased and thus ruining the achieved effect initially.

Not sure if there's a way of modifying that sustain behaviour so that one could balance out the negative result of cranking up the aformentioned sliders..

I've tried the spectrum profile, it changes the character as a whole but it doesn't change sympathetic resonance.

The problem is that the "sympathetic resonance" slider doesn't discern among undamped note resonance and damper resonance, neither does it with the cabinet nor the soundboard resonance, meaning that a substancial increase of the "sympathetic resonance" slider will simultaneously crank up all these resonances, including the damper resonance which is presumably the one ruining my experiment here.

I'd love to see that "sympathetic resonance" slider broken down into multiple separate resonances so you can choose which ones to increase more and which less, sort of what Roland modeled pianos allow..

Perhaps in future versions of Pianoteq? Or is it just me not finding the right settings?

Thank you Joann, I've tried that too, it makes resonance more prominent by extending it (longer decay of the resonance), while it's a feature nice to have, it's certainly not what I'm after.

The resonance I'm talking about should be noticeable and adjustable without adding any reverbs or prolongation to it, you should be able to adjust intensity by perhaps involving more neighbouring strings or more gain if you want, sort of more "harmonic ring"

This is a link to a couple of examples:

- 2 audios from the Noir (Native Instruments)
- 2 audios from my onboard SKEX (Kawai CA97)

each of both shows the difference between with and without "undamped string resonance", hope it works

https://on.soundcloud.com/BZnnm

Thank you Philippe, I've been experimenting more and more these last days but no success so far.

On a positive side, I've learned a lot of stuff while exploring the possibilities and also I've got a better sound to my ears, more genuine, more imperfection if you want, which is what I enjoy from a piano sound.

Also, I've been playing with the note-off curve which wasn't totally clear to me what effect/nuance it triggers, I just noticed a longer decay when lowering the curve/line.

After a lot of thinking and analysing, I came to the conclusion that even I'm getting more resonance, nicer attack for the harmonics etc. I'm still no getting the artifact described a couple posts above, that harsh ring at the very begining of the note attack.

Not sure what it is, but I can only imagine it's some sort of the played note exciting the verry immediate strings only, not the harmonics whatsoever, and that should be possible without pressing the sustain pedal nor playing any other notes.

Also, when pressing the sustain pedal, this effect shouldn't be affected, not exagerated or anything but it should rather vanish. To my understanding, this is the difference between what I'm after and what the "sympathetic ressonance" slider does.

Hey Chopin87, that's a really nice tweak - simple but effective. Adjusting the note-off curve helps, too.

Do you have the note-off curve on a slope, similar to the main velocity curve? If so you will be able to get the fuzzy effect of the vibrating string when the key is released slowly.
For reference, here's the note-off curve I use for Roland FP-30: Note-Off Velocity = [0, 127; 5, 127]