Question Pianoteq 8 as DAW plugin with other VST's

Which DAW are you using? Joannchr's suggestion is more or less what I'm using now, after playing around with a few configurations. It works exactly the way I hoped it would.

Make sure you're sending the same MIDI messages to Pianoteq that you're sending to the sample library. That's the key piece I was missing for a while. Flattening the velocity curve to 0 stops the hammers from firing, but if it's still getting the same MIDI (specifically the note on/off and sustain pedal CCs), it'll keep the dampers in sync with what you're playing on the sample library, and the resonance sounds very realistic.

Thanks for the tip, it really was useful and now I'm able to hear the sympathetic resonances. It turned out that I wasn't activating the PTQ track besides the main VST, now I armed both, I can hear it.

It's interesting because if you're arming the main VST only, this will excite the strings on Pianoteq as if it was physically inside Pianoteq, it will even be affected by the reverb and delay setting of the latter. When also arming Pianoteq, same phenomenom will happen but Pianoteq will also reproduce the resonances as if played too, hence the sympathetic resonances in this case only.

What's turning me a bit off is that the whole thing sounds richer but not right to me ears, I hear like double notes, like striking two different pianos. I solo-ed the Pianoteq track to see what was happening while both tracks remained armed, I could hear the resonances but also felt like the strings Pianoteq was being "striked", producing that sense of double sound (the original VST + Pianoteq).

I think that when arming both tracks, the main VST isn't only exciting string on Pianoteq, but there's also some attack to the produced resonances, like the VST is hitting the strings on Pianoteq, hence the chorus effect while playing a couple of pieces, especially on the upper-mid section of the keyboard.

Not sure it all makes sense and weather there's any trick around, I'm using ableton 11 btw

Regards,
David

Yes, velocity curve is zeroed, the problem is that I'm still hearing some strong attack of the resonances.

I think, I'd ideally hear the second half of the resonances on Pianoteq, like removing the attack part where the strings on PTQ are being excited by the sampled VST.

While I was browsing the note-edit options on PTQ I've found the "attack envelope", I thought that if I lowered the attack I might somewhat get the result I'm after but to my surprise the "attack envelope" was set to 0 by default, meaning that there's no lower than that, what's yet funnier is if you increase the values you can bearly feel any difference (none in my case)..

Not sure there's other way to do it, I think that would make the trick..

I played around a bit with the demo version of TrackSpacer tonight. Really cool plugin.

You basically drop it on the Pianoteq track, set the sidechain on Trackspacer to pull audio from the main piano, and it'll continuously reverse-EQ the Pianoteq track so the main piano has space, and as the main piano quiets down, Pteq resonances come forward. There's a free trial if you want to give it a shot. I had best results when I went into the advanced mode and upped the release time.

https://www.wavesfactory.com/audio-plugins/trackspacer/

What's the point of worrying if any DAW has a built-in dynamic EQ?
Just use Tokyo Dawn's free dynamic EQ.

https://www.tokyodawn.net/tdr-nova/

Plus low and high filters. In any case if you seriously somehow needed more you can load multiple instances onto a track anyway. Then onto aux bus tracks and the master. 

4 dynamic bands is already a lot in practice. You can already shape those bands substantially.  6 in the Gentlemen's edition - if you need even more.
Combine that with other static EQs for character if you like. You really aren't band EQ limited, unless you use a crippled version of a DAW which only allows so many instances - I use Reaper (there is no crippled version of that).

Ignoring EQ. Instead disable MIDI out on the original track and MIDI in on the receiving track. 

I just set up Pianoteq as an FX for another instrument Reaper as a test. This works, no EQ or ducking compression or whatever required.

1) Add 3rd party instrument VST
2) create new Aux track
3) add Pianoteq on this new Aux track
4) Route from original track to Pianoteq aux track.
5) Disable MIDI input on both the Aux (Pianoteq FX) track and disable MIDI out coming from original VST so that the aux track only reacts to audio input not midi.

Input set to "none" it works fine.
Looping through some of my own wet FX Pianoteq presets and some of the more wet reverb and FX factory presets it's quite cool!
I must admit I only tested this for the forum. I might use it if it isn't too CPU hungry.

I have to say I don't really get the point anymore. Happy with the modelled Pianoteq sound. If it was an old recording you were trying to spruce up I could understand that. I'm not that interested in those legacy sample pianos. All that effort.

The ability to perhaps more naturally blend other instrument tracks by exciting the Pianoteq instruments within an apparently believable living breathing virtual environment has interesting potential.

Also using OTT FX for intentionally synthetic results is cool too.

Ha!, It's a nice first world problem to have!

You probably already know this but I just had a quick look through Spectrasonics FAQ. They do allow licence transfers on a case-by-case basis. They don't allow licence transfers with already second-hand licences.

Guys let me quickly ask you, is the release sound a type of resonance?

If so, is this resonance being generated with this method too? (by using PTQ as resonator only) because I'm not able to hear it, not sure it's very subtle of it's non existent mainly..

Other question, when exciting the strings in PTQ by playing other vst, are these strings being excited selectively based on the played notes on the sampled vst, or is it rather based on the whole range of frequencies that come from the VST as a sound wave that's exciting PTQ?