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Topic: Any way of saving the midi sample that you have attached to preset?

On a preset there is a nice midi sample to play (inside the preset manager, click the note icon).

Is there any way to export the midi? I tried clicking record, before playing the midi sample, but that wasn't recorded (as I'd hoped)

Some of these tunes are really nice and it would be nice to analyze them, note by note, or by exporting to musescore or similar

Are the midis on the the filesystem? Or baked into the s/w?

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Re: Any way of saving the midi sample that you have attached to preset?

Hello Fancellu, and welcome to the forum.

Good question, you showed me that each preset has it's own MIDI excerpt! I didn't know that, I only knew about the blues demo on the top of the interface, which you can play by pressing the Play button on the top. That is always the same demo, no matter on which preset you are, as you've probably discovered.

I tried opening the Pianoteq plugin inside Reaper, playing a MIDI excerpt from within the preset manager, and recording at the same time in Reaper, but it didn't work. It may be that Modartt is willingly not giving access to these MIDI segments, since they get them from other players, like Phil Best, and others, who are not employees of Modartt, as far as I know.

So it is up to the providers of the demos, if they want to publish their own works in MIDI format. If you hover over the play button in the preset manager, you can see the names of the pieces played, unless they are improvisations.You can google the names, with the word MIDI added at the end.

Some of these demos might be on the Piano E-Competition website, and others in Shared files on this page. If not, and you can't find them by googling, then there is probably no way of getting them as MIDI, except contacting the creators!

https://www.piano-e-competition.com/mid...ctions.asp

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Re: Any way of saving the midi sample that you have attached to preset?

Fancellu wrote:

On a preset there is a nice midi sample to play (inside the preset manager, click the note icon).

Is there any way to export the midi? I tried clicking record, before playing the midi sample, but that wasn't recorded (as I'd hoped)

Some of these tunes are really nice and it would be nice to analyze them, note by note, or by exporting to musescore or similar

Are the midis on the the filesystem? Or baked into the s/w?

Thanks

Hello Fancellu,

Thanks for bringing this up !
I'm in the same league as TheodorN - I didn't know it, but glad you made me find it.
(I have the impression the User Interface isn't always as helpful as it could be ...)

I quickly tested it in Ableton Live (will try later in others), but alas, although it shows up as a midi source in another channel, actual recording resulted in an empty fragment.
Of course you can record audio and then do an audio to midi conversion, but depending on the demo, that might involve doing a lot of manual correcting (mainly removing notes). I can imagine that after tweaking the instrument in Pianoteq (removing harmonics and side noises), this process could be more efficient, but I don't know (yet) if you can edit an instrument and still play the same demo ?

And I agree : it would be nice to be able to do it - direct learning from a master can sometimes give a serious boost in expanding your skills !