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Topic: Feature request inspired by tuning a piano for the first time

Hi
A couple of days a go I tuned my piano by myself for the first time.
It was quite an educational and fun experience - and being a long time pianoteq user, having a basic grasp of how sympathetic resonance works, what is octave stretching, etc... really helped.

It would be nice if I could recreate this experience with Pianoteq. I know there are 3 parameters: detune, unison width, and unison balance, which map (indirectly though) to the 3 strings (where it applies). So you could in effect recreate different configurations of the 3 strings like on a real piano. But the mapping is not direct.

Here's what I imagine:
1) Select a note by pressing the keyboard.
2) In a midi controller of your choice, use 3 rotary encoders to directly tune the  3 strings of selected note
3) Use on off switches to damp individual strings (I don't know that this can be done in PTQ)


I think this would create a closer experience to actually tuning a piano.

Does this resonate (pun intended) with anyone?

B.T.W here's me doodling on my old Yamaha U1 after I tuned it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poSXAt5...EranTalmor

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Re: Feature request inspired by tuning a piano for the first time

etalmor wrote:

Hi
A couple of days a go I tuned my piano by myself for the first time.
It was quite an educational and fun experience - and being a long time pianoteq user, having a basic grasp of how sympathetic resonance works, what is octave stretching, etc... really helped.

It would be nice if I could recreate this experience with Pianoteq. I know there are 3 parameters: detune, unison width, and unison balance, which map (indirectly though) to the 3 strings (where it applies). So you could in effect recreate different configurations of the 3 strings like on a real piano. But the mapping is not direct.

Here's what I imagine:
1) Select a note by pressing the keyboard.
2) In a midi controller of your choice, use 3 rotary encoders to directly tune the  3 strings of selected note
3) Use on off switches to damp individual strings (I don't know that this can be done in PTQ)


I think this would create a closer experience to actually tuning a piano.

Does this resonate (pun intended) with anyone?

B.T.W here's me doodling on my old Yamaha U1 after I tuned it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poSXAt5...EranTalmor


I had an idea!, not saying it's a good one:

You could set the unison to perfect, layer 3 of the same pianos, and then detune each one to your taste
Might give a similar result to what you want.
You'll need the standard version for that.
(With layering and the Pro version remember to eat and drink every other day at least!)

I saw a video on an old C.Bechstein where the string stoppers(*) were design to NOT be perpendicular to the strings,
they attribute the wonderful(**) tone of that piano, in that hall, to fact that each string would automatically have a different tension or tuning (can't remember which one).

found it: "Pierre-Laurent Aimard talks about C. Bechstein at the Wigmore Hall"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgecQ1uytSA

(*) don't know the technical term.
(**) sounded good but over YT what can we hear?...