iOS app coming soon

Are we going to be able to run same full functional version on a tablet? Or is it going to be just an app that allows us to control Pianoteq on a PC via some sort of wireless technology (just an interface)?

sordess wrote:

davidizquierdo82 wrote:

Are we going to be able to run same full functional version on a tablet? Or is it going to be just an app that allows us to control Pianoteq on a PC via some sort of wireless technology (just an interface)?

Really hopping this is a full native application.  Cannot wait for that version to arrive!

Cheers

Read the last line: https://www.modartt.com/pianoteq#pane_new

I'd love to know timelines and price.

Irmin wrote:

I'd love to know timelines and price.

From the FAQ:
"May I install Pianoteq or Organteq on more than one computer?
Yes, you may install it on up to 3 computers of your own. You are not bound to any specific operating system, thus you may install e.g. a Windows version on the first computer, MacOS on the second and Linux on the third."

I imagine they will update this FAQ question to include iOS when that version is released.
IOW the same price for new customers or free to existing customers that haven't used all three slots up.

jacko wrote:

Key Fumbler wrote:

From the FAQ:
"May I install Pianoteq or Organteq on more than one computer?
Yes, you may install it on up to 3 computers of your own. You are not bound to any specific operating system, thus you may install e.g. a Windows version on the first computer, MacOS on the second and Linux on the third."

I imagine they will update this FAQ question to include iOS when that version is released.
IOW the same price for new customers or free to existing customers that haven't used all three slots up.

i hope you're right but they would be the first to do it. Just about every company sells their ios music apps separately from their computer software

I also hope this is the way it’s done. It’s possible the iOS app will be a free download in demo mode that you can then unlock with your key from Modartt? That would be very user friendly.  Fingers crossed…

tfort wrote:

jacko wrote:

i hope you're right but they would be the first to do it. Just about every company sells their ios music apps separately from their computer software

I also hope this is the way it’s done. It’s possible the iOS app will be a free download in demo mode that you can then unlock with your key from Modartt? That would be very user friendly.  Fingers crossed…

It would be nice and maybe I am wrong but I think this is unlikely to happen. Because it would bypass the App store, thus not enabling Apple to take its fee.
Let's say you bought your PC licence 100€ and it's free then on iOS. Normally, it should have been sold around 129€ on the App store to include the 15% (or 30%) commission fee from Apple plus the exchange rate from dollar to eur (fixed by Apple and really not favorable to european customers). So this would be a loss of almost 29€ for Apple.
The only solution I see is to distribute a specific Pianoteq version sold through the iOS app store and the Mac app store. Then if you buy your licence on these platforms (at a higher price compared to direct-to-customer Madartt site), it would work (not for PC, though). But it would be only advantageous to newly adopting customers.
Let's wait. Maybe I will be wrong...

BarbaraRB wrote:

Roland, Yamaha and Casio all have apps on both Apple and Android that are totally free to authorized users (those who own the approplrate instruments). So I don't see why this should be any different.

Huge difference. These apps are free and fully functional. Pianoteq will be a demo, which you have to PAY in some WAY to make fully functional. Apple wants to make A LOT of money from Apps, and hence they have in their developers licensing some rules that you HAVE to pay via the App store, not on the side. Otherwise, many/most apps would be free/demo and will require you to pay on the side, avoiding the money that Apple wants to take!!

Free apps are tolerated, since nobody is making money and considered a way for both developers and users to "dip their toes" in the hope that later they will have a paid version which the alligators (ehm, I mean Apple) will take their share. FWIW, I have an Android and Google actually does the same evil, so not bashing one specific company here.

BarbaraRB wrote:

I don't think it is different. The apps for the digital pianos are free, but you can't use them unless you buy the piano. The Pianoteq app will only work if you have a license, which is equivalent to the piano. Perhaps the piano mfrs pay something to Apple or Google. I don't know how that works. But I think the business model is comparable.

The piano is a physical object. Garmin does a similar thing, with a free app which is useless unless you buy one of their watch or other gadgets. But the app itself, while useless, it's not crippled. Same with piano manufacturers.

PTQ will need to be crippled until you buy a license, which is not a separate object. Huge difference.

Anybody can publish a free app on Apple or Google, paying only a one time registration fee of $25 (I've done that). The developer agreement to let you do that asks that you do not ask money to your users in any other way. If you do, you're out of the app store and your app is uninstalled from all your customer's devices. The piano manufacturers, Garmin and the likes are not asking money for their app. There is no "registration license" that you are purchasing. It might look the same to you but there is a huge legal difference.

BarbaraRB wrote:

I still don't see a difference.  The Roland, Yamaha, and Casio apps are "crippled" unless you provide the necessary authorization.  There is absolutely nothing they can do without that.  So -- no different from PTQ requiring that you input your license number.  License number/authorization number = identical thing.  Buying a piano/buying PTQ = same thing, even if one is a solid object and the other is software. You may not see it that way -- we'll have to agree to disagree.

Let me be clear: I see your point and I agree with you in theory. I go even more and I say that the app stores are thieves, and they should charge much less than they do. But they don't do that, they are in charge and they do as they please, suggesting stuff that you don't want and hiding stuff you may want unless you search hard for them. The way they work for non-free app is how I described. If they didn't, they would not make any profit because everybody would do as you describe and avoid their hefty fees.

Key Fumbler wrote:

Irmin wrote:

I'd love to know timelines and price.

From the FAQ:
"May I install Pianoteq or Organteq on more than one computer?
Yes, you may install it on up to 3 computers of your own. You are not bound to any specific operating system, thus you may install e.g. a Windows version on the first computer, MacOS on the second and Linux on the third."

I imagine they will update this FAQ question to include iOS when that version is released.
IOW the same price for new customers or free to existing customers that haven't used all three slots up.

Will they increase the number licenses beyond 3 or create a different license tier for iOS?    I'm already using 3 installs on computers and for iOS alone I would want to install on my iPhone and an iPad.

Is there some kind of all purpose usb midi -> Lightning cable or does it depend on keyboard manufacturer? Would be nice to already have the cable when the iOS app comes.