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Topic: Petrof Mistral Classical Recording - Do you hear what I hear?

Hi,
So far I've been using mostly the "basic" "binaural" and "player" presets of the grand pianos which I find beautiful. I am currently testing some "recording" presets (the Bechstein ones sound particularly good) but I have a problem with the "classical recording" preset of the Petrof Mistal, particularly audible around the G2 A2. Like a second sound a fraction of a second after the base note. I thought about delay or reverb, but it seems to be due to the microphones. Do you hear the same thing?
It sound bizarre to me...
Thank you

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Jusqu'à maintenant j'ai surtout utilisé les presets "basic" "binaural" et "player" des grand pianos que je trouve magnifiques. Je teste actuellement quelques preset "recording" ( ceux du Bechstein sonnent particulièrement bien) mais j'ai un soucis avec le preset "classical recording" du Petrof Mistal, particulièrement audible autour des G2 A2. Comme un deuxième son une fraction de seconde après la note de base. J'ai pensé au delay ou à la reverb mais ce phénomène semble plutôt du aux micros. Entendez-vous la même chose ? Qu'en pensez-vous ? Celà sonne bizarre pour moi...
Merci

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Re: Petrof Mistral Classical Recording - Do you hear what I hear?

Hello/Bonjour,

I think the parameter that provocks this effect is the Pre-delay of the Reverb. If you set it to 0, this "second sound" will disappear.

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rtournem wrote:

Hello/Bonjour,

I think the parameter that provocks this effect is the Pre-delay of the Reverb. If you set it to 0, this "second sound" will disappear.

Merci pour votre réponse, celà fonctionne effectivement. Cette valeur du paramètre de pre-delay était-elle volontairement élevées dans ce cas (avec la conséquence sonore entendue) ou bien sera t'elle corrigée lors d'une maj ? Je ne maîtrise pas les paramètres de reverb et j'essaye de comprendre ses effets. Merci.

Thank you for your answer, it works indeed. Was this value of the pre-delay parameter voluntarily high in this case (with the sound consequence heard) or will it be corrected during an update? I don't master the reverb parameters and I'm trying to understand its effects. Thank you.

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YvesTh wrote:
rtournem wrote:

Hello/Bonjour,

I think the parameter that provocks this effect is the Pre-delay of the Reverb. If you set it to 0, this "second sound" will disappear.

Merci pour votre réponse, celà fonctionne effectivement. Cette valeur du paramètre de pre-delay était-elle volontairement élevées dans ce cas (avec la conséquence sonore entendue) ou bien sera t'elle corrigée lors d'une maj ? Je ne maîtrise pas les paramètres de reverb et j'essaye de comprendre ses effets. Merci.

Thank you for your answer, it works indeed. Was this value of the pre-delay parameter voluntarily high in this case (with the sound consequence heard) or will it be corrected during an update? I don't master the reverb parameters and I'm trying to understand its effects. Thank you.

The pre-delay triggers a sort of sound repetition, it should be handled with caution because it will produce phase shifts that modifies the note frequency content. A better way to handle this problem may be to change the quantity of the reverb with the "Mix" slider. We "accepted" this defect in Pianoteq because "Recording" presets mimick the context of a real recording sessions where the sound engineer also has to live with the quirks of the instrument. We try not to make many note to note adjustments for these presets.

Hoping it clears out your questions!