Topic: Pianoteq Marimba sounds off (to me, at least)

Hello all! I have been using Pianoteq for a few weeks and have been extremely impressed with the quality of the Piano and Electric Piano models available in Pianoteq. However, in my testing of the Xylo+Bass Marimba instrument pack, I have found that the Marimba sounds really off to me, especially in really high and really low registers. In my opinion, it sounds too metallic and, for a lack of a better word, "cheap". Has anyone else had this experience with the Pianoteq Marimba and has anyone else managed to make it sound better? Thank you in advance.

Re: Pianoteq Marimba sounds off (to me, at least)

Hello!

I was originally percussion player (before I went more to piano) and I studied mallet instruments in Conservatory. So I’d say I know percussion instruments quite well. I have two acoustic vibraphones at home. In my opinion PTQ marimba and vibes models are nice, those two have qualities that many sampled options have not. IMO what  they are lacking is same which is still weakness of PTQ models in general. It does not have enough nuances in attack part of the sound. It makes sustain, resonances and more distant sound very well but it has difficult to catch sounds which you listen (or record) very closely to your instrument. Same goes with vibes and marimbas etc. For example PTQ marimba sound is something that you would listen to in a space, medium room or concert hall. It’s more audiences perspective to sound. But this sound it does quite well.

Percussion player has lot of options for choosing different mallets (some are more softe and other are harder, mallet head materials vary). With medium rattan mallets you may hear nice ”crispy” attack which comes from rubber head inside mallet or perhaps more ”woody clonk” with different mallets. This is something which player wants to hear and maybe record too. Audience won’t hear this similarly when they listen to same playing. If you listen to jazz vibes players (like Gary Burton for example) you’ll hear very clear vibes sound with special attacks. This goes with pianos as well. I’ve taken Chick Corea’s piano sound as an example for years to explain this problematics.




P.S. If you ask me the most unnatural sound of PTQ palette is Rhodes piano. I must say I don’t understand how this can be said to be close model of real one…

Last edited by Ecaroh (12-06-2022 15:53)

Re: Pianoteq Marimba sounds off (to me, at least)

Ecaroh wrote:

Hello!..
P.S. If you ask me the most unnatural sound of PTQ palette is Rhodes piano. I must say I don’t understand how this can be said to be close model of real one…

This helps:
https://forum.modartt.com/file/wbgnd5i

Re: Pianoteq Marimba sounds off (to me, at least)

If you compare the DI is actually very close imho. The MKII particularly so. There is still stuff that can be improved though.

Last edited by Chopin87 (12-06-2022 16:15)
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Re: Pianoteq Marimba sounds off (to me, at least)

Chopin87 wrote:

If you compare the DI is actually very close imho. The MKII particularly so. There is still stuff that can be improved though.

I suggest the electric pack presets could do with a refresh.

Re: Pianoteq Marimba sounds off (to me, at least)

Chopin87 wrote:

If you compare the DI is actually very close imho. The MKII particularly so. There is still stuff that can be improved though.

Sorry but what’s DI? I don’t know that term…

Re: Pianoteq Marimba sounds off (to me, at least)

Ecaroh wrote:
Chopin87 wrote:

If you compare the DI is actually very close imho. The MKII particularly so. There is still stuff that can be improved though.

Sorry but what’s DI? I don’t know that term…

It's the mono out of the EPs.

"And live to be the show and gaze o' the time."  (William Shakespeare)

Re: Pianoteq Marimba sounds off (to me, at least)

Chopin87 wrote:
Ecaroh wrote:
Chopin87 wrote:

If you compare the DI is actually very close imho. The MKII particularly so. There is still stuff that can be improved though.

Sorry but what’s DI? I don’t know that term…

It's the mono out of the EPs.

In case you didn't know the close Superposed Spark preset link above is a workaround for those that really wanted stereo FX with the mono out, as per the real thing.
Currently Pianoteq doesn't offer that - yet.

Re: Pianoteq Marimba sounds off (to me, at least)

Key Fumbler wrote:
Chopin87 wrote:
Ecaroh wrote:

Sorry but what’s DI? I don’t know that term…

It's the mono out of the EPs.

In case you didn't know the close Superposed Spark preset link above is a workaround for those that really wanted stereo FX with the mono out, as per the real thing.
Currently Pianoteq doesn't offer that - yet.

Saw the workaround posted a while back but I continue to prefer the old VKFX with the e pianos or some good Amp sim. They are almost like instant gratification for me...

"And live to be the show and gaze o' the time."  (William Shakespeare)