Not totally satisfy yet.
11 Piano preset used:
A Petrof 275
NY Steinway D
K2 Basic
Steinway B
C Bechstein 282
Petrof 284 Mistral
Bluethner Model One
Grotrain Royal
Steingraeber 272
HB Steinway D
YC5 Pop
Just waiting for comments and criticisms.
Dear k c Paul Li,
When I first listened to Bridge Over Troubled Water, I immediately thought it was too much reverb in the music. I had a hard time getting an idea of the piano sound. I think it could be your best so far, with less reverb, but not like this.
As a comparison of sounds, I listened carefully again to all these your pieces (and again to Bridge over troubled water):
Debussy: Suite Bergamasque - IV. Passepied
Debussy - Arabesque No.1
Clair de Lune - Debussy
3rd mov. Yellow River Piano Concerto
Ravel- Pavane pour une infante defunte
Bridge Over Troubled Water
As a conclusion, to my ears, you have succeeded best with the pieces Clair de Lune and Arabesque.
Clair de Lune ( I said at that time: seriously, this is one of the best renditions I have heard, and of course the Ptq sound play a big role. People could use this as an example for their studies. And what a great sound, love it. Pianoteq).
And Arabesque No.1 ( I said at that time: Beautiful playing. Beautiful sounds. I’m impressed. Played with feeling, I like every moment of this performance. And the tempo is perfect. In my opinion many people play this piece in some sections too fast. Now it was enjoyable)
Would it be possible that you would try with less reverb and if you think it gets better, you upload that version as well ?
In any case, I want you to know, you’re so inspiring. I look up to you and I’m still testing this ”your system” but it takes time for me now, changing so many things….
Best wishes,
Stig
Pianoteqenthusiast, Organteqenthusiast, Harpteqenthusiast, Harpsichordteqenthusiast and experimenter
When I first listened to Bridge Over Troubled Water, I immediately thought it was too much reverb in the music.
Thank you Stig for your comments.
I totally agree with you that it was too much reverb.
Not like those classical, I don't have much knowledge on mixing and performing this kind of music.
Just try to see if I can play/record this.
And I know that there are many guys that can play this one much better than me.
Following is a less reverb version
https://youtu.be/kofEnTxTpSk
I love this song! It's great that you play pops as well as classical - good music is good music. Yes, I wondered about the reverb as well, I thought (in the first version) that you were trying to emulate the 'wall of sound' processing typical of the 60s and 70s. The second version is preferable, I think. For me the unequal temperament doesn't quite work in this idiom - I understand and respect your reasons for using it, but I'd prefer to hear something closer to ET here.
Pianoteqenthusiast wrote:When I first listened to Bridge Over Troubled Water, I immediately thought it was too much reverb in the music.
Thank you Stig for your comments.
I totally agree with you that it was too much reverb.
Not like those classical, I don't have much knowledge on mixing and performing this kind of music.
Just try to see if I can play/record this.
And I know that there are many guys that can play this one much better than me.Following is a less reverb version
https://youtu.be/kofEnTxTpSk
Thank you k c Paul Li for the less reverb version. I think this piece benefit from being played with less reverb. More nice now. It sounds more personal, an expression of your own creative voice. Now it’s a more ”coherent” piece.
It sounds planned, so that it is clear and sensible and all its parts go more well with each other, easier to understand. Now I can hear the piano sound. Good work.
But, as you use to say ”Not totally satisfy yet”. To me, there is one thing more now.
In some places the notes remain, last, continue from the previous chord to the next chord in the bass part, especially in forte. Could it be the Pianoteq’s sympathetic resonance - is there too much of it? (the resonance of the strings, soundboard and cabinet). Just a thought. Anywai the piece sounds better now Thanks for your wotk.
These are only an amateur’s subjective opinions
Keep going! Waiting with interest for next one.
Best wishes,
Stig
Pianoteqenthusiast, Organteqenthusiast, Harpteqenthusiast, Harpsichordteqenthusiast and experimenter
In some places the notes remain, last, continue from the previous chord to the next chord in the bass part, especially in forte. Could it be the Pianoteq’s sympathetic resonance
No, don't blame Pianoteq, it's all my fault, I haven't paid enough attention to the bass part yet.
I wondered about the reverb as well, I thought (in the first version) that you were trying to emulate the 'wall of sound' processing typical of the 60s and 70s. The second version is preferable, I think. For me the unequal temperament doesn't quite work in this idiom - I understand and respect your reasons for using it, but I'd prefer to hear something closer to ET here.
Yes, I deliberately use too much reverb to emulate a "Wall Like" effect.
But I found that everybody prefers a less reverb version, so I changed it.
For the temperament, ET is more natural to our ear.
Maybe we had already listened for so many years under this temperament,
we have got used to it.