Topic: a Concerto for Piano and Er-Hu, "Yubei Ballad"

https://youtu.be/HI5goPe118s

Sound Sources:

Swan Violin
Pianoteq (Petrof 284 Mistral, C. Bechstein D 282)

Temperament: Meantone 1/4
A=432

Re: a Concerto for Piano and Er-Hu, "Yubei Ballad"

Very enjoyable, with the virtual violin standing in nicely for the ErHu. I don't suppose there is such a thing as a modelled ErHu, but there ought to be!

Re: a Concerto for Piano and Er-Hu, "Yubei Ballad"

dazric wrote:

Very enjoyable, with the virtual violin standing in nicely for the ErHu. I don't suppose there is such a thing as a modelled ErHu, but there ought to be!

There are modeled ErHu, I have more than one of them.
But for this piece, the Violin is better.
However, I had altered the string tension of the violin, making it sounds not so "Violin".
That modeled ErHu I own sounds good, but are not capable of playing this complex piece.
They have a limited range of useful notes.

Re: a Concerto for Piano and Er-Hu, "Yubei Ballad"

I have used virtual ErHu in this video

https://youtu.be/vhKAJKBNkhE

Re: a Concerto for Piano and Er-Hu, "Yubei Ballad"

k c Paul Li wrote:

I have used virtual ErHu in this video

https://youtu.be/vhKAJKBNkhE

This is lovely, but to me the 'ErHu' sounds more like a viola! What were the other instruments?

Re: a Concerto for Piano and Er-Hu, "Yubei Ballad"

dazric wrote:

but to me the 'ErHu' sounds more like a viola! What were the other instruments?

I check the original file. Oh, I just make a mistake.
You are right, It isn't ErHu, it is a violin.

Other instruments are:
Guitar, GuQin, Sitar, Piano, Cello

Re: a Concerto for Piano and Er-Hu, "Yubei Ballad"

Brilliant, thank you!

Re: a Concerto for Piano and Er-Hu, "Yubei Ballad"

I enjoyed it very much.  Reminded me of one of my favorites, the "Butterfly Lover's Concerto", by Zhanhao and Gang.

- David

Re: a Concerto for Piano and Er-Hu, "Yubei Ballad"

dklein wrote:

I enjoyed it very much.  Reminded me of one of my favorites, the "Butterfly Lover's Concerto", by Zhanhao and Gang.

Yeah, the forever Butterfly Lovers
https://youtu.be/mbaPSKlIbkw

Re: a Concerto for Piano and Er-Hu, "Yubei Ballad"

Thanks..Very nice!  As I tried to riff along a bit, I realized that it must not be based on a 440 A, or it must be playing along in quarter tones (I remember reading a story that the composers were thrown in jail during the cultural revolution, but couldn't remember if it was because the the influences were traditional, the instruments were contemporary, or some hybrid of the two 'problems' seen as sins by the administration at that time).

- David

Re: a Concerto for Piano and Er-Hu, "Yubei Ballad"

Butterfly Lovers always brings back some very happy memories for me. Years ago I went to a concert given by the Peking Brothers ensemble. It was a wonderful, magical evening, and it began my fascination for Chinese music. Very soon after, I discovered Butterfly Lovers.

Re: a Concerto for Piano and Er-Hu, "Yubei Ballad"

dklein wrote:

I realized that it must not be based on a 440 A, or it must be playing along in quarter tones (I remember reading a story that the composers were thrown in jail during the cultural revolution, but couldn't remember if it was because the influences were traditional, the instruments were contemporary, or some hybrid of the two 'problems' seen as sins by the administration at that time).

It is based on 440A, but the temperament is different....somewhat like the meantone, but not exactly. But I use Zarlino temperament and 432A in my recording.

In the cultural revolution, if you have a piano or violin, you were seen as a sin.
A crazy world.

Re: a Concerto for Piano and Er-Hu, "Yubei Ballad"

these performances are great.  what are you using for your MIDI board?  the level of control and subtlety is awesome.  even if i could play like this i couldn't get it out of my MIDI board ...

Re: a Concerto for Piano and Er-Hu, "Yubei Ballad"

budo wrote:

these performances are great.  what are you using for your MIDI board?  the level of control and subtlety is awesome.  even if i could play like this i couldn't get it out of my MIDI board ...

The following video shows a glimpse of my way of tackling musical expressions.
In the video, I draw the controller data by mouse.
But I use the Modulation wheel to input(record) controller data, usually in real-time.

https://youtu.be/XdnpQgXwkQM

Last edited by k c Paul Li (28-04-2022 07:27)