New v7 parameters freeze functionality, poll/discussion

There are many reasons that I prefer v.6 Freeze functionality, from keeping Reverb 'Off', to setting the Condition to 0.18 for more realism, etc.  I used to also like having a permanent velocity curve with Freeze, but I overcame that with an external velocity curve program called VelPro (Spingbeats.com - lets you set a velocity curve for your keyboard so that all of your VSTs will benefit), and now Pianoteq has its own 'Global' Velocity Curve setting through either right-clicking on the velocity curve or clicking the greyed-out 'G' button at the lower right.

In any case, my understanding is that the reason that the Freeze Function changed was that technical support at Modartt got an overwhelming number of emails and calls about weird problems that were caused by folks who had 'frozen' various functions 'On' and then forgotten them, that they decided to eliminate that functionality.

Just in case noticed the "Sound speed" seems to be not included in the list in the "Output settings".

Don’t like to set the freeze parameters every single time......
why not just implement an’always’buttom?

Here is how I use it, I set to "freeze":

1. Diapason
2. Temperament
3. Velocity On curve
4. Action Noises (off)
5. Reverb (off, I use the external VST one)
6. Limiter
7. All Output settings (mics, etc. custom setup)

Then it allows me to surf through different pianos (8 grands packs plus Kivir, stock presets) preserving their individual settings like voicing and design, but keeping them like in the same acoustic space.

Yes, sure, great fun, make the practice sessions more entertaining, especially like playing Chopin on a Harpsichords, so on :)

That's great news, thankyou

For sure, everyone has their own approach, nothing wrong with that. I am a strong advocate of personalizing the different models to one's taste, playing style, sound system, etc. However, I think a case can be made for initially trying the factory presets exactly how they were made, without changing anything. The only exception I usually make is to turn down the reverb (almost systematically too much for my taste). Inevitably, I will change something down the line (sometimes quite a lot).  but I like this initial contact with a preset as close as possible to the way it was intended to sound. It helps me sort out, what "I really like about it" from "this is not quite right". By doing so, maybe I learn something more about the program and how to use it.. So I am happy either way the Freeze goes.

Great news that it is going to be reworked. I had noticed some inconsistencies in the behavior in current V7 implementation as well. I turned the limiter off on a preset, set the master volume how I wanted and had both of those parameters frozen using the V7 tool, but then saw these values still moving around. Master volume jumped up, Limiter got turned back on...etc.

I figured out that  if I used the right click option on the preset arrows (to jump to the next instrument), it ignored my freeze selections. A normal click to the next preset didn't seem to have this issue.

So sad to see that this wasn't fixed in 7.0.4 :-(

Don't worry, it will come back, it just requires a bit of time working 'under the engine'.

"We will fix freeze in a future update.Anyway, we will restore it since that is by far the most requested feature since v7 is out !"

So I still have to set the freeze parameters each time I start the software. This is certainly a small fix, and it is now almost half a year later. I do not want to be to critical because I love Pianoteq and use it since many many years, but it is small things that you have to repeat every time you use a software that are really unnerving/ énervant/ nervig.

Thanks, Qexl!  Somehow I completely overlooked this.  I have been just manually selecting my slightly deconditioned piano with custom relatively dry reverb each time I restart.  Now I don't have to do this.

Hats off to Modartt for this simple fix, and for your pointing it out.

:-)

The only issue I have is that when loading a second preset to morph, the freeze settings are not remembered, so I have to retune the newly loaded preset.

Yes i agree with you it is great fun to mix the timbres of the different instruments,  it's more the tuning that is the issue; i have a default non standard frozen tuning, so when i select an instrument to morph with, it mixes 2 different tunings, because most presets have the same standard tuning, rather than loading my frozen tuning settings as it does when i load a preset normally.

Not a major issue, just a bit fiddly every time i morph.