Topic: phase issues, mic placement and mono compatibility
Hi all - I'm new here, and new to Pianoteq. Sorry if this post is a bit technical.
I'm an audio engineer/musician looking into why digital/software pianos sound good in headphones but sometimes fall apart in live settings. I've traced the problem to poor mono-compatibility of the stereo output: wave interference and phase cancellation can distort the timbre in live play, where L and R channels always mix down to mono to some extent (especially with the highly directional horn loudspeakers used in live sound).
Many people have recommended Pianoteq as being better at this. So, today I used a phase correlation meter to make measurements of the Pianoteq 7 Stage demo. It's better than my Yamaha CP50 digital, but there are still some notes that suffer from phase cancellation.
You can find my Pianoteq measurements at the bottom of this post:
http://rtaylor.sites.tru.ca/2021/07/14/...-issues-3/
The worst note is F5, for which L and R signals have large negative correlation -- a sure sign of poor mono-compatibility. A spectral analysis shows this is because the 698Hz fundamental has L and R channels nearly out of phase. So, on mix-down to mono the fundamental basically drops out, leaving the higher harmonics to dominate the timbre. I hear this note as sounding different from adjacent notes, with distinctly lower volume. Not bad, just inconsistent with the timbre of the whole instrument. As expected, this effect completely disappears in headphones.
I wonder if others can hear this? It certainly helps to know what to listen for; the notes with the worst phase issues are F5, B4 and D#5. To hear the effect most consistently, it helps to disable the reverb and set the velocity curve to a constant level.
My interest in Pianoteq is that it's possible to tweak the mic positions to correct phase problems. What are the default mic positions for Pianoteq 7 Stage? This doesn't seem to be documented anywhere. I would assume this has been optimized carefully, but my measurements indicate otherwise.
I don't mean to criticize Pianoteq here; it's fiendishly difficult to get this right, and Pianoteq seems to do better than most. But I'm very keen to improve realism in live-play situations. Correcting the obvious phase issues seems like low-hanging fruit.
Richard