Topic: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

I love Pianoteq and all the pianos, the harpsichords are okay, but the clavichord is the worst. To me the instrument sounds wrong and no matter what settings and adjustments I have made, I can't get the instrument to sound like a clavichord. Maybe this is because I have a real instrument and played it quite often until recently due to the instrument needing some repairs that I can't afford at the moment.

The instrument is very, very soft-sounding due to how it works and this I think is part of the problem as well as the uniqueness of its sound, which is a cross between a pianoforte, guitar, and harpsichord at the same time. This unique instrument's sound is produced by small metal plates called tangents that are mounted directly into the ends of the keys and serve two purposes:

1) They produce the sound by striking the string when the key is depressed.
2) Determine the pitch of the string.

The tangent serves as a stop or fret and the length of the string between the tangent and the crossing of the string at the bridge against the bridge pin determines the pitch.

The listing cloth, or strips of felt placed to the left of the tangents is used to provide a bit of downward pressure against the bridge by binding the strings tightly and also stop the strings from vibrating on the "wrong" side of the tangent.

With this setup in mind, there are two kinds of clavichords and a hybrid of sorts. The earliest instruments were fretted, meaning more than one note shared a pair of strings. Remember how the tangents determine the pitch? A single pair of strings then can be shared by multiple keys and on an instrument such as this, these were called triple-fretted instruments. As time went on, the unfretted instruments were developed around 1743 or thereabouts due to music becoming more and more complex. With a B, C, and C# keys, and other combinations throughout the keyboard, all sharing a pair of strings, this made chords impossible.

Remember the listing cloth and its purpose? There exists an instrument called a clavichord d'Amore. This instrument has strings that are struck in their exact centers of their length and this produces the most beautiful sound.

Anyway, back to our issue. The Neupert instrument doesn't sound right and sounds more like an electric guitar. For some reason, it's missing the overtones, and ethereal sound that a clavichord makes.

Here's a real instrument from 1802.

https://youtu.be/38hgCCoGxgE

This recording has been amplified substantially from what a clavichord sounds like, but the mic setup is good here and captures the sound pretty well, albeit, a bit louder than for real. Note the really, really soft sound here before the camera moves in close. That's what the clavichord really sounds like to someone sitting away from the keyboard.

https://youtu.be/yrE0Tb2SVLI

For someone sitting at the instrument and playing, the clavichord can be quite loud and this is why it became a favored practice and domestic instrument. Its beautiful unique soft sound can become quite percussive and loud when the environment is very soft. Playing a clavichord at 3:00 am when there's little outside ambient noise, no TVs cars, and other distractions, is not unlike playing a pianoforte. Bach, Scarlatti, Mozart, Haydn, and even early Beethoven works (Yes Beethoven owned a clavichord too!) come alive in a totally different fashion than they ever do on a pianoforte.

Now, if Modartt can come even close to this someday, I would be doing dances and jigs in my room!

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

Excellent post with examples. 

Have you tried making some alterations to the preset, such as by manipulating the soundboard controls to reduce the length that the Neupert notes 'ring'?  Also, changing the strikepoint settings alters the note activation tone character.  Direct sound duration can be helpful as well.  As one last trick, going to mallet bounce and activating it with the green button at the top left, but then minimizing the Initial Delay to 10 ms allows this control to be used to contour the apparent sound of note activation, without adding a repeated bouncing mallet.

I apologize that I just read your post, listened to a few minutes of your posted videos, and then played around for a few more minutes before I now have to leave for work, so I didn't create the clavichord sound that you're looking for, but I believe that you can get further to your goal with a little sculpting of the sound in this fashion.

- David

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My humble opinion is that both videos sounds more "natural" due the strings feel and sounds more loose, like the digital Neupert had strings sounding like it was too tight, by comparison. The noises also are more pronounced and closer, specially in the second video.
It feels like in the videos there is more sound coming from the air strings vibration while in the digital it sounds tighter and more like coming from soundboard.

Last edited by Beto-Music (20-07-2021 15:50)

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

dklein wrote:

Excellent post with examples. 

Have you tried making some alterations to the preset, such as by manipulating the soundboard controls to reduce the length that the Neupert notes 'ring'?  Also, changing the strikepoint settings alters the note activation tone character.  Direct sound duration can be helpful as well.  As one last trick, going to mallet bounce and activating it with the green button at the top left, but then minimizing the Initial Delay to 10 ms allows this control to be used to contour the apparent sound of note activation, without adding a repeated bouncing mallet.

I apologize that I just read your post, listened to a few minutes of your posted videos, and then played around for a few more minutes before I now have to leave for work, so I didn't create the clavichord sound that you're looking for, but I believe that you can get further to your goal with a little sculpting of the sound in this fashion.

I will definitely take a look at those settings as well and see what I can come up with. Thank you for the tips.

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

Beto-Music wrote:

My humble opinion is that both videos sounds more "natural" due the strings feel and sounds more loose, like the digital Neupert had strings sounding like it was too tight, by comparison. The noises also are more pronounced and closer, specially in the second video.
It feels like in the videos there is more sound coming from the air strings vibration while in the digital it sounds tighter and more like coming from soundboard.

That's a good observation and I wonder if David's recommendations may help. If we could put "air" into the instrument, that may help a lot. I wonder too if changing the mic position to further out in the room plus the environment will help too.

Off to experiment. :-)

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

It seems to me they were using 415Hz tuning fork and the well tempered tuning (the Neupert 415 preset in pianoteq is the closer in sound). Or is the double choir which gives more body to the instrument? I am swimming in the dark with this instrument...

"And live to be the show and gaze o' the time."  (William Shakespeare)

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

Chopin87 wrote:

It seems to me they were using 415Hz tuning fork and the well tempered tuning (the Neupert 415 preset in pianoteq is the closer in sound). Or is the double choir which gives more body to the instrument? I am swimming in the dark with this instrument...

Sadly, you and the rest of us are swimming deeply in the dark. I think Modartt needs to visit my music teacher in Belgium and play his clavichord. The one in the video is closer to my instrument in sound even though they are all Saxon instruments, meaning their design originated in Saxony. This design became the favorite among the Scandanavian countries, in north Germany, and in the Netherlands.

The double-stringing adds body to the sound, otherwise, it's pretty thin. On my real, now sadly dead instrument, I would lose a string in a pair and the sound would be lost. I would deal with that until I completely lost the pair and had to replace both strings.

The tuning is okay on this instrument at A=440. My own instrument was supposed to be tuned to A=415, but I could never do that because the strings would snap randomly and I ended up tuning to A=410. I tried A=392 and ended up with rubberbands and mushy sound. Since the instrument is played solo, there's no one else to know it's slightly flat as long as it's in tune with its self and it was happy at 410 for the longest time.

I've been experimenting with the settings and haven't found anything remotely close to the clavichord, but did end up with a Lautenwerk instead! I'll keep my happy accident for now. If anyone is interested, I'll upload the FXP.

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

I've been experimenting with the settings and haven't found anything remotely close to the clavichord, but did end up with a Lautenwerk instead! I'll keep my happy accident for now. If anyone is interested, I'll upload the FXP.

Please do upload that.  Be great to hear that and see how it plays.

StephenG

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sjgcit wrote:

I've been experimenting with the settings and haven't found anything remotely close to the clavichord, but did end up with a Lautenwerk instead! I'll keep my happy accident for now. If anyone is interested, I'll upload the FXP.

Please do upload that.  Be great to hear that and see how it plays.

Yes please! I'd like to try it too.

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

Hello everyone!
Some of you know that I like to experiment all the time. Had to give this Neupert ”problem” a shot 
Ar first, I like Neupert as it is, and I think we can’t get it to sound as the video examples above.
Keep in mind video was recorded in a concert hall. (Clavichords were usually played in domestic rooms with very different, much warmer acoustics).

And, because, clavichord in video is Johann Paul Kraemer and sons, Göttingen, 1803 - and Modartt modeled clavichord Neupert (1941) which is based on a "Modell Philipp Emanuel Bach” provided by the Kremsegg Schloss Museum (Kremsmünster, Austria).

We can’t create the room acustic in the video. But, asking for more room, air, to the instrument, I modified Neupert and made a short recording.
And I think Bach would have fun reading this thread 
Enjoy,
Stig

https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...eupert.mp3

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

Pianoteqenthusiast wrote:

Hello everyone!
Some of you know that I like to experiment all the time. Had to give this Neupert ”problem” a shot 
Ar first, I like Neupert as it is, and I think we can’t get it to sound as the video examples above.
Keep in mind video was recorded in a concert hall. (Clavichords were usually played in domestic rooms with very different, much warmer acoustics).

And, because, clavichord in video is Johann Paul Kraemer and sons, Göttingen, 1803 - and Modartt modeled clavichord Neupert (1941) which is based on a "Modell Philipp Emanuel Bach” provided by the Kremsegg Schloss Museum (Kremsmünster, Austria).

We can’t create the room acustic in the video. But, asking for more room, air, to the instrument, I modified Neupert and made a short recording.
And I think Bach would have fun reading this thread 
Enjoy,
Stig

https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...eupert.mp3

Not necessarily true on the environment. Even my real clavichord sounded similar to what's in the recording in a regular room that is shared with my Vogel 177 T and my Italian virginal, which resides on a bookshelf.

I agree though that it may be impossible to get the sound to come out what is really expected, but anyway it's been fun experimenting.

Your recording is interesting. The "clavichord" sounds very much like a very early ca. 1790-95 fortepiano I played on at the Frederick Collection. :-)

Last edited by jcitron (21-07-2021 17:05)

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

Here's the "lautenwerk"

https://forum.modartt.com//file/da8dv14e

Enjoy and experiment some more. Perhaps one of us will come up with a clavichord at some point. :-)

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

jcitron wrote:
Pianoteqenthusiast wrote:

Hello everyone!
Some of you know that I like to experiment all the time. Had to give this Neupert ”problem” a shot 
Ar first, I like Neupert as it is, and I think we can’t get it to sound as the video examples above.
Keep in mind video was recorded in a concert hall. (Clavichords were usually played in domestic rooms with very different, much warmer acoustics).

And, because, clavichord in video is Johann Paul Kraemer and sons, Göttingen, 1803 - and Modartt modeled clavichord Neupert (1941) which is based on a "Modell Philipp Emanuel Bach” provided by the Kremsegg Schloss Museum (Kremsmünster, Austria).

We can’t create the room acustic in the video. But, asking for more room, air, to the instrument, I modified Neupert and made a short recording.
And I think Bach would have fun reading this thread 
Enjoy,
Stig

https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...eupert.mp3

Not necessarily true on the environment. Even my real clavichord sounded similar to what's in the recording in a regular room that is shared with my Vogel 177 T and my Italian virginal, which resides on a bookshelf.

I agree though that it may be impossible to get the sound to come out what is really expected, but anyway it's been fun experimenting.

Your recording is interesting. The "clavichord" sounds very much like a very early ca. 1790-95 fortepiano I played on at the Frederick Collection. :-)


Thank you for your comment. I’m glad you find my clavichord sound interesting and and glad for this your comment:  Your…….. ”clavichord" sounds very much like a very early ca. 1790-95 fortepiano I played on at the Frederick Collection”.

Fortepiano!    Well, it means my sound is rich in overtones with a silvery tone. And my sound is quickly and crisply articulated with clear tone definition, and a variety of colors (fortepiano)
In beginning of this thread you said the clavichord for some reasons it’s missing the overtones that a clavichord makes. Now I have it then 
Thanks, I really need to start experimenting seriously. Because by only changing velocity curve to Moderately fast keyboard, I came a bit close to your lautenwerk sound 

Best,

Stig

Edit:
I remember reading that clavichord is also used in recordings by Oscar Peterson, Keith Jarret and The Beatles 

Last edited by Pianoteqenthusiast (21-07-2021 22:11)

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

jcitron wrote:

Anyway, back to our issue. The Neupert instrument doesn't sound right and sounds more like an electric guitar. For some reason, it's missing the overtones, and ethereal sound that a clavichord makes.

Here's a real instrument from 1802.
https://youtu.be/38hgCCoGxgE

Is it possible to record each note (in one recording ) from your actual clavichord?
It's hard to tell what the sound is like from the videos, like pitch, sound speed, duration, etc. These are the things I hear when I listen to sounds.

I've had a go myself.

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

DonSmith wrote:
jcitron wrote:

Anyway, back to our issue. The Neupert instrument doesn't sound right and sounds more like an electric guitar. For some reason, it's missing the overtones, and ethereal sound that a clavichord makes.

Here's a real instrument from 1802.
https://youtu.be/38hgCCoGxgE

Is it possible to record each note (in one recording ) from your actual clavichord?
It's hard to tell what the sound is like from the videos, like pitch, sound speed, duration, etc. These are the things I hear when I listen to sounds.

I've had a go myself.

How did your results come out? I think I know what the problem is with the model. The Neupert's sound is too round. Pianos have a round and smooth sound-shape without the initial attack, which has been eliminated more and more by the big soft fluffy hammers. If we are able to get a sharp attack at the beginning that is smoothed out with the overtones like a piano, combine that with the ethereal open sound, that can't be described, we may have a clavichord!

I wish I could sample my instrument, but my instrument is in need of repairs. The bridge lifted from the soundboard, flipped on its side and cracked into 3 pieces! I cried, really, really cried when that happened!!! The strings have been removed and a new bridge awaits reinstallation along with its 126 strings. Being a brand-new bridge, I need to install the bridge pins and match the scaling exactly like the old one using a gauge and marking tool, remove the keyboard, use a clamp and block to hold the bridge in place for a couple of days, then go about restringing and reinstalling the listing cloth.

What happened was the bridge, we found out, was always warped and was never glued down completely. When my brother and I examined the bottom of the bridge snapped bridge, and the soundboard where it was glued to, there were many places with zero glue and only bare wood.

I bought this instrument used in 2006 for a big sum from a used instrument dealer and the instrument always would randomly snap strings. I had C1 to g3 restrung twice at $650 each time and I also did it myself once as well as replaced a few strings here and there, which is an awful chore. The instrument would be tuned, sound great and then I would open the lid and find a string snapped somewhere which happened overnight. The instrument also never stayed in tune and would stretch upwards in pitch all the time throughout the treble and I ended up tuning the clavichord down to A=410 instead of at A=415 where it wasn't happy. That helped a bit, but contributed to the bridge lifting off because there was less downward pressure of the strings. Even with the problems, I played the instrument constantly and enjoyed it while it was tuned, but then after all these years, the instrument dates back to the mid-1980s, it failed completely and now it's where I am now.

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

Can anyone join the party ?

Here's my "clumsy attempt" at a different clavichord setting...

Neupert Lute Factory Settings - JS Bach Fantasia in Cm

Neupert Lute Smilie Settings - JS Bach Fantasia in Cm

Loves PianoTeq (small)

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

Jcitron, I am sad to hear of the 'fatigue failure' of your clavichord components.  It will take effort, but I'm sure that you will get things back in functional order again.

As for your comment on 'attack' of the notes, that's one of the things that has been improved through the versions in the Pianoteq modeling, but has been out of the control of users other than for hammer hardness, hammer sound, and some 'tricks' such as that which I mentioned with the mallet bounce settings.  Perhaps it's in the future plans for Philippe and company to provide us with modifiable controls for note attack, but I will defer to them for such future features.

- David

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

jcitron wrote:

How did your results come out? I think I know what the problem is with the model. The Neupert's sound is too round. Pianos have a round and smooth sound-shape without the initial attack, which has been eliminated more and more by the big soft fluffy hammers. If we are able to get a sharp attack at the beginning that is smoothed out with the overtones like a piano, combine that with the ethereal open sound, that can't be described, we may have a clavichord!

I made a couple of FXP files and loaded them in the FXP Corner.

https://forum.modartt.com//file/4eldpkxq
https://forum.modartt.com//file/ofa1ul2

Last edited by DonSmith (25-07-2021 02:25)

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

jcitron wrote:

I love Pianoteq and all the pianos, the harpsichords are okay, but the clavichord is the worst. To me the instrument sounds wrong and no matter what settings and adjustments I have made, I can't get the instrument to sound like a clavichord. Maybe this is because I have a real instrument and played it quite often until recently due to the instrument needing some repairs that I can't afford at the moment.

The instrument is very, very soft-sounding due to how it works and this I think is part of the problem as well as the uniqueness of its sound, which is a cross between a pianoforte, guitar, and harpsichord at the same time. This unique instrument's sound is produced by small metal plates called tangents that are mounted directly into the ends of the keys and serve two purposes:

1) They produce the sound by striking the string when the key is depressed.
2) Determine the pitch of the string.

The tangent serves as a stop or fret and the length of the string between the tangent and the crossing of the string at the bridge against the bridge pin determines the pitch.

The listing cloth, or strips of felt placed to the left of the tangents is used to provide a bit of downward pressure against the bridge by binding the strings tightly and also stop the strings from vibrating on the "wrong" side of the tangent.

With this setup in mind, there are two kinds of clavichords and a hybrid of sorts. The earliest instruments were fretted, meaning more than one note shared a pair of strings. Remember how the tangents determine the pitch? A single pair of strings then can be shared by multiple keys and on an instrument such as this, these were called triple-fretted instruments. As time went on, the unfretted instruments were developed around 1743 or thereabouts due to music becoming more and more complex. With a B, C, and C# keys, and other combinations throughout the keyboard, all sharing a pair of strings, this made chords impossible.

Remember the listing cloth and its purpose? There exists an instrument called a clavichord d'Amore. This instrument has strings that are struck in their exact centers of their length and this produces the most beautiful sound.

Anyway, back to our issue. The Neupert instrument doesn't sound right and sounds more like an electric guitar. For some reason, it's missing the overtones, and ethereal sound that a clavichord makes.

Here's a real instrument from 1802.

https://youtu.be/38hgCCoGxgE

This recording has been amplified substantially from what a clavichord sounds like, but the mic setup is good here and captures the sound pretty well, albeit, a bit louder than for real. Note the really, really soft sound here before the camera moves in close. That's what the clavichord really sounds like to someone sitting away from the keyboard.

https://youtu.be/yrE0Tb2SVLI

For someone sitting at the instrument and playing, the clavichord can be quite loud and this is why it became a favored practice and domestic instrument. Its beautiful unique soft sound can become quite percussive and loud when the environment is very soft. Playing a clavichord at 3:00 am when there's little outside ambient noise, no TVs cars, and other distractions, is not unlike playing a pianoforte. Bach, Scarlatti, Mozart, Haydn, and even early Beethoven works (Yes Beethoven owned a clavichord too!) come alive in a totally different fashion than they ever do on a pianoforte.

Now, if Modartt can come even close to this someday, I would be doing dances and jigs in my room!


Try using the "Pinch Harmonic Pedal"

Respeito, Esforço e Sabedoria

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

DonSmith wrote:
jcitron wrote:

How did your results come out? I think I know what the problem is with the model. The Neupert's sound is too round. Pianos have a round and smooth sound-shape without the initial attack, which has been eliminated more and more by the big soft fluffy hammers. If we are able to get a sharp attack at the beginning that is smoothed out with the overtones like a piano, combine that with the ethereal open sound, that can't be described, we may have a clavichord!

I made a couple of FXP files and loaded them in the FXP Corner.

https://forum.modartt.com//file/4eldpkxq
https://forum.modartt.com//file/ofa1ul2

Thanks, I'll check them out. :-)

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Professor Leandro Duarte wrote:

Try using the "Pinch Harmonic Pedal"

Thanks, I'll give that a try as well.

With various combinations, we may eventually come up with that magic combination that may come close.

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

Here is a modified version of the Lautenwerk (or Lautenwerck) settings that were posted here:

https://forum.modartt.com//file/9884fumi

https://forum.modartt.com//download.php?id=4586

I guess it sounds more like a Lautenwerk than a clavichord.
I added a slight bit of aftertouch, which probably only makes sense for the clavichord.

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allanb wrote:

Here is a modified version of the Lautenwerk (or Lautenwerck) settings that were posted here:

https://forum.modartt.com//file/9884fumi

https://forum.modartt.com//download.php?id=4586

I guess it sounds more like a Lautenwerk than a clavichord.
I added a slight bit of aftertouch, which probably only makes sense for the clavichord.

That's really close, Allain.

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

Agree.

There is only one clavichord.

When you search "clavichord" in google, the results show "harpsichord."

The attack is always too high. The distinctiveness and nuance is not there. Disagree and you're kidding yourself.

There is an option for impulse response so there is almost no reason a more proper clavichord can not be modeled

Create a clavichord that sounds like Joan Benson in 1962.

https://www.earlymusicamerica.org/web-a...-champion/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VcWsWe...channel%29

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

Pianoteqenthusiast wrote:

Hello everyone!
Some of you know that I like to experiment all the time. Had to give this Neupert ”problem” a shot 
Ar first, I like Neupert as it is, and I think we can’t get it to sound as the video examples above.
Keep in mind video was recorded in a concert hall. (Clavichords were usually played in domestic rooms with very different, much warmer acoustics).

And, because, clavichord in video is Johann Paul Kraemer and sons, Göttingen, 1803 - and Modartt modeled clavichord Neupert (1941) which is based on a "Modell Philipp Emanuel Bach” provided by the Kremsegg Schloss Museum (Kremsmünster, Austria).

We can’t create the room acustic in the video. But, asking for more room, air, to the instrument, I modified Neupert and made a short recording.
And I think Bach would have fun reading this thread 
Enjoy,
Stig

https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...eupert.mp3


Love your recording, Stig! So beautiful! And I agree that Bach would love this thread.

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

BarbaraRB wrote:
Pianoteqenthusiast wrote:

Hello everyone!
Some of you know that I like to experiment all the time. Had to give this Neupert ”problem” a shot 
Ar first, I like Neupert as it is, and I think we can’t get it to sound as the video examples above.
Keep in mind video was recorded in a concert hall. (Clavichords were usually played in domestic rooms with very different, much warmer acoustics).

And, because, clavichord in video is Johann Paul Kraemer and sons, Göttingen, 1803 - and Modartt modeled clavichord Neupert (1941) which is based on a "Modell Philipp Emanuel Bach” provided by the Kremsegg Schloss Museum (Kremsmünster, Austria).

We can’t create the room acustic in the video. But, asking for more room, air, to the instrument, I modified Neupert and made a short recording.
And I think Bach would have fun reading this thread 
Enjoy,
Stig

https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...eupert.mp3


Love your recording, Stig! So beautiful! And I agree that Bach would love this thread.


Barbara, you have my deepest thanks. Glad you like the sound. I hope it is rich in overtones, but people hear different for many reasons (which I have described in another thread).

Best wishes,

Stig

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I like the Clavichord !

https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...Accomp.mp3


Other Examples:

https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?id=9881

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

jcitron wrote:

I love Pianoteq and all the pianos, the harpsichords are okay, but the clavichord is the worst. To me the instrument sounds wrong and no matter what settings and adjustments I have made, I can't get the instrument to sound like a clavichord. Maybe this is because I have a real instrument and played it quite often until recently due to the instrument needing some repairs that I can't afford at the moment.

I agree with your concerns about how the Pianoteq Neupert Clavichord simulation sounds relative to what we both expect of a clavichord.  However, it appears that the issue is not with how accurate Pianoteq's simulation is, as much as which particular clavichord they chose to simulate.

At least based upon https://youtu.be/dHbXn8wM_-Q?si=FtwFk2Iqu8XcLhbS, Pianoteq's simulation seems, to my ears at least, to be ... well, not perfect, but actually respectably accurate!

Last edited by mr88cet (29-11-2023 17:35)

Re: I really don't like the Neupert clavichord. :-(

Seems like if you're getting too much soundboard and not enough string air, adjusting the mic placements by moving any super close mics a bit away from the soundboard would improve it.