Topic: Bechstein DG Sweet on pianoteq 6 or 7
Hello, I have the impression that the Bechstein DG Sweet sounds better on pianoteq 6 than on 7, is it normal? Does anyone believe it too?
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Re: Bechstein DG Sweet on pianoteq 6 or 7
It's perfectly OK to like a different version for sure. Good thing we can keep earlier versions of Pianoteq installed alongside 7 for this kind of thing.
There's always going to be changes to overall timbre (or just clarity or some other aspect of the audio) when new enhancements in the physics is applied across updated instruments. Some presets are always more different than others because of some new advance.
Perhaps some presets might lose a little warmth (which can be recovered with a user change to a setting) or gain more clarity than before etc.
I prefer to get on with the new versions, rather than worry too much about things from previous versions being different. Some old presets from version 4 I loved.
Mainly, we can change a few settings to make the new instruments sound more like the old ones - but how?..
I'd try going here:
In that section of the website you could find out quickly if there's a clear way you might be able to edit the sweet setting to make it more like the older one yourself.
If you don't get it how you want, maybe post an example of exported audio from both, and someone might try to help more in detail and upload an FXP preset file for ver. 7 for you.
Let us know how that goes - good luck - with a little time and application we can really make great changes to any preset to our liking/needs.
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Re: Bechstein DG Sweet on pianoteq 6 or 7
fraska wrote:
Hello, I have the impression that the Bechstein DG Sweet sounds better on pianoteq 6 than on 7, is it normal? Does anyone believe it too?
Welcome raska to the forum, and thank you for your post.
I just made a quick comparison, and found that the main difference is the volume.
When updating all instruments for version 7, we have renormalized the volume of all presets, both on a note per note basis (it is now more regular) as globally (general volume).
As a consequence, the new Bechstein DG Sweet is more or less 1 to 2 dB less loud than the corresponding version 6 preset, particularly on the right hand side. From a psychoacoustic point of view, such a small volume variation is not necessarily perceived as a volume variation, it can just give the feeling of a rounder, thicker sound (for the one which is louder).
I suggest that you compare side by side after adding 1.5 dB to the volume in version 7. Let me know what results.
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hm.. I actually planned to make my first post and tell the developers how much more I like the pianoteq 7 version of the Bechstein compared to the previous version. I had tested the previous trial versions in the past and now with version 7 is became so good that this has triggered me to actually buy it.
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erazortt wrote:
hm.. I actually planned to make my first post and tell the developers how much more I like the pianoteq 7 version of the Bechstein compared to the previous version. I had tested the previous trial versions in the past and now with version 7 is became so good that this has triggered me to actually buy it.
Thank erazortt for the kind words, and welcome to the forum!
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I really like the overall sound of the pianos in Pianoteq 7 and ended up removing my custom presets I created in V6 to overcome the shortcomings I found in that version.
What customizations I did recreate, however, are for those pianos that require straight stringing and utilize a moderator.
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jcitron wrote:
I really like the overall sound of the pianos in Pianoteq 7 and ended up removing my custom presets I created in V6 to overcome the shortcomings I found in that version.
What customizations I did recreate, however, are for those pianos that require straight stringing and utilize a moderator.
I find on my P515 that modification on all pianos is the norm; probably because I have the Yamaha settings fo a light touch, giving a harder sound. I get there in the end, but the Bechstein DG is everybody's favourite and mine too. It's exceptionally good to play and plsten to, even at high volumes. PTq 7 and the not by note editing persuaded me to go Standard.
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really?
peterws wrote:
but the Bechstein DG is everybody's favourite
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peterws wrote:
jcitron wrote:I really like the overall sound of the pianos in Pianoteq 7 and ended up removing my custom presets I created in V6 to overcome the shortcomings I found in that version.
What customizations I did recreate, however, are for those pianos that require straight stringing and utilize a moderator.
I find on my P515 that modification on all pianos is the norm; probably because I have the Yamaha settings fo a light touch, giving a harder sound. I get there in the end, but the Bechstein DG is everybody's favourite and mine too. It's exceptionally good to play and plsten to, even at high volumes. PTq 7 and the not by note editing persuaded me to go Standard.
Thankyou for an exceptional product!
I've noticed that too with Yamaha as well. The Bechstein DG is definitely my favorite as well.
Here's the Bechstein DG Recording 3 in PT6. I'm rerecording this soon(tm) in PT7 when I have time. I had modified this piano slightly by changing the velocity curve to moderately slow and adjusted the reverb. When I installed PT7, I found this change wasn't necessary.
Alexandre Goria's Nocturne Op. 6: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ddtm7lqs8f8hh...t.wav?dl=0
It's the richness of this piano that drew me to it probably as well as everyone else. The note-by-note editing has taken me some time to get used to, but I think it's me needing the time to do that. That was one of the reasons why I went with Standard to start with.
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