Topic: Help please!

Hello everyone, I am seeking help. I have a M-Audio Keystation Pro 88 midi keyboard. Lately when I am playing and pedal the sustain pedal, it pitches the played note down. Not all the time just occasionally and I can't figure out why. Any help with this matter would be gratefully received thank you. Regard's, Joseph.

Re: Help please!

Hi Joseph,

have you checked your Midi-Mapping in Pteq (Edit  -> Preferences -> MIDI)?

Looks like your Sustain Pedal isn't properly mapped.

I use the Keystation 88 MKII when at my Desktop PC.

My mapping for the Sustain Pedal is as follows:

Controller 64, Any, Pedal 4, Range 0 - 1.00

Hope that helps ...

Pboy

Last edited by Pboy (13-04-2020 14:13)
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Re: Help please!

I used to use the Keystation Pro 88, and I had to replace it because too many sensor circuits were failing (notes were either 127 velocity or 1).  Can you confirm that this is not happening in another MIDI software.  It's possible that there's a short between the internal circuits for the sustain pedal and the pitch bend wheel.  I would also recommend turning off any pitch bend settings in your MIDI mapping settings for PTQ and see if that resolves the problem.

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Re: Help please!

I agree with tmyoung's thought of possible leakage between internal circuitry - one thing I have seen fairly commonly in keyboards (and other equipment too) is the remnant of a liquid spill creating a conductive leakage path on a circuit board. This can cause weird intermittent behavior, and a clean of circuit boards with isopropyl alcohol or a dedicated board cleaning solution can often solve such a problem.

People are often quite sure that liquid would never have been spilled onto their keyboard or other device, but they can be quite surprised if you show them the boards or photos of the boards where dried up stains can clearly be seen.

Re: Help please!

I had also a Keystation Pro 88 along with a few Keystation 61 keyboards.  The Keystation Pro 88 was my first board that came with eighty-eight (88) keys which were weighted.

And like all the Keystation 61 keyboards I got as replacements, although with semi-weighted keys, the Keystation Pro also soon became defective.  Each board lost dynamic control one key at a time!  On each of these M-Audio boards several keys eventually permitted only a note-on velocity of 127.

And, I genuinely liked the silver color of each of them (boards).  It was obviously a real fad.  Too bad, inside them the orange colored rubber parts on individual keys frequently broke and tore.

Just as your problem might happen outside the keyboard itself, you can tell whether or not it’s in MIDI mapping, if importantly you run a test on any of the PIANOTEQ Factory presets.  This loads a preset named without italics appearing inside that, so showing the unmodified preset.

Whenever the preset does receive some unanticipated sort of a modification from MIDI messages, its name then will appear within the italics!

As any preset gets at least one modification from either your playing or a MIDI file, its name thusly will appear in the italicized form and also with the word modified added in parentheses.

Which alone might indicate it is a problem and result in your experiencing the unwanted pitch changes.

Although so long as you’ve previously selected Minimalistic as your current MIDI mapping, that might minimize or block unexpected modifications ever from happening.  You’ll likely anyway get performances as expected without your having to go into and edit any MIDI file separately.  It’s right now a possible temporary solution to your problem.  It just might help you.

Edit: a lot besides Minimalist to Minimalistic change.  Minimalist is your possible personal (custom) choice, when the outlook is optimistic.

Last edited by Amen Ptah Ra (15-06-2020 23:49)
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Re: Help please!

Amen Ptah Ra wrote:

I had also a Keystation Pro 88 along with a few Keystation 61 keyboards.  The Keystation Pro 88 was my first board that came with eighty-eight (88) weighted keys.

And like all the Keystation 61 keyboards which came only as replacements, although with semi-weighted keys, the Keystation Pro 88 quickly became defective.  Each board lost dynamic control one key at a time!  On each of the M-Audio boards several keys began to allow only a note-on velocity of 127.

And, I genuinely liked the silver color of the boards.  It was a real fad.  Too bad, inside them the orange colored rubber parts on the individual keys frequently broke and tore.

When your problem exists outside the keyboard itself, you may tell whether or not it’s in MIDI mapping, if you run a test with any of the PIANOTEQ Factory presets.  Which loads with a preset name that displays without italics, so showing an unmodified preset.

Whenever the preset does receive any unanticipated sort of a modification from MIDI messages, its name will appear with the italics.

As a preset gets the modification from either your playing or a MIDI file, its name will appear in an italicized form and also with the word modified in parentheses.

That might indicate the problem and result in an unexpected pitch change.

So long as you’ve previously selected Minimalist as your MIDI mapping, that particular mapping might minimize or block unwanted modifications from ever happening.  You get performances as expected without your having to go into and edit a MIDI file separately.  It’s a possible temporary solution to your problem.  It just might help.

Re: Help please!

Pboy wrote:

Hi Joseph,

have you checked your Midi-Mapping in Pteq (Edit  -> Preferences -> MIDI)?

Looks like your Sustain Pedal isn't properly mapped.

I use the Keystation 88 MKII when at my Desktop PC.

My mapping for the Sustain Pedal is as follows:

Controller 64, Any, Pedal 4, Range 0 - 1.00

Hope that helps ...

Pboy

Thank you, Regard's, Joseph