Velocity Curves and Dynamics

Yes, you can create or modify a velocity curve to boost your dynamics, if you wish, or do the opposite. For a good starting point, study the effects of the velocity curve presets in Pianoteq ('Slow keyboard', and so on). Alternatively, adjust the Dynamics slider in Pianoteq to expand or reduce the dynamic range.
I think if you're basically happy with the shaping of your dynamics but want a bit more contrast between pp and ff, the Dynamics slider is probably the control you're looking for. Or you could use a combination of both Dynamics and velocity curve.

You're welcome! It took me ages to understand the velocity curve, too. From your description, it sounds as if you may need to adjust something on the piano itself (if possible) to get a wider velocity range. The velocity curve just filters the input values from the keyboard - but I'm glad you've found some sort of solution for now.

I have always had issues working out a decent velocity curve for my MP11, especially with Pianoteq.  The velocity response of the keyboard is narrow ... something like 25-112 as mentioned.  So with such a narrow working range getting the correct dynamics has always been an issue.

I have been using this velocity curve some time:

Velocity = [0, 3, 7, 12, 17, 23, 30, 36, 43, 49, 56, 63, 72, 79, 85, 93, 99, 104, 108, 112, 116, 120, 123, 127; 0, 6, 10, 13, 17, 21, 25, 30, 36, 41, 47, 54, 62, 69, 75, 82, 90, 96, 102, 107, 110, 112, 113, 114]

It came from a program used with the VPC1 (but was listed for MP11).   The curve is flattened and lowered ... and quite honestly has been the best I have used. 

More recently I have been experimenting with the Dynamics slider in an attempt to expand the range.

As mentioned I have had more issues with the velocity curve in Pianoteq than other pianos.  For instance with Garritan CFX, using the default curve, I have a more natural response and improved dynamics.  For some reason, I can't get that same natural feel when working with Pianoteq.  I understand there are so many different variables that go into this. 

I love the MP11, but I will really have to think long and hard about purchasing another Kawai based on the velocity response.

Thnx scorpio, I saw that curve uploaded to the curves forum by Nor. Have liked it - it's softer than my current one - but I go through phases, liking different 'feel' every so often, softer or harder (and particular pieces and pianos are good to try different curves with - it is like a different piano under your hands).

I made one a while back based on that one you show us, but just with +4 velo on each point (I ended up preferring it and still use it)..

Velocity = [0, 3, 7, 12, 17, 23, 30, 36, 43, 49, 56, 63, 72, 79, 85, 93, 99, 104, 108, 112, 116, 120, 123, 127; 4, 10, 14, 17, 21, 25, 29, 34, 40, 45, 51, 58, 66, 73, 79, 86, 94, 100, 106, 111, 114, 116, 117, 118]

Interesting re the range thing but it still gets me from 0 to 127 with the curve work (it's to me arbitrary numbers with slippage, the curve corrects). I don't feel robbed of detail or range in playing but maybe a top tier pianist might.

I've still yet to find a dpiano action I like better or feel as inspired playing, which is kind of my main desire. I can't say I've tried the FP30 though - so will make a point of it next time I get to a store.

Thank you Stephen_Doonan for your input.  Your comments have helped to solidify my own thoughts on this issue.

Interesting, this has a nearly idential shape to the one I posted. 

I do this often as well.  The "heavy" setting seems to tame the key responses.

This is really helpful.  What you describe is exactly what I have experienced ... there is some erratic behavior in some keys.  I need to go back to my manual and see if I can tweak some of the keys to align with my expectations. 

More than half the issue is that I am a beginner, I do not play as often as I would like.  My playing is uneven at best.  If I am being honest, I am the weakest link in the chain.  But I agree the MP11 is a fine instrument and I have enjoyed it.  Again, thank you.

Thanks dazric I have a soft spot for Roland gear.

Nice performance!
Is Alex left-handed?