Topic: New historic pianos from Modarrt

Modarrt has finally emulated a Steinway Square piano!  There's a new instrument pack with several early piano designs.  Steinway achieved his fame first and foremost for his square pianos, so having access to this should be very instructive for looking at the kind of pianos you would find a regular home during middle and latter portion of the 19th Century (Uprights are a more 20th Century entity than an earlier one).

I know these will be useful for the kind of research and writing I do, but I'm also looking forward to the samples that the community creates.  Thank you Modarrt for continuing to assist in historical instrument preservation (and sparing me trying to figure out how to emulate a square piano using existing instrument packs)!

Example of a Steinway Square piano:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1TK1x9fO9o

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2xHiPcCsm29R12HX4eXd4J
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Very impressive, just tried them in demo. Great work Modartt

Last edited by MeDorian (18-03-2020 22:37)

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Newly modeled sounds from the older NY Steinway (that is) the most modern of the Karsten Collection does have really an air of authenticity!  Others do as well, at least those so far I’ve heard.  Obviously, they are all results of recent modeling improvements.

Only, Top view and Front view are confusing.  Now somebody has to tell me where you put your microphones, because the representations shown in those views are different from any square piano depiction I see in the PIANOTEQ Preset manager.

Geometric proportions are off quite a bit.

Last edited by Amen Ptah Ra (19-03-2020 08:40)
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Covid-19 can't stop Modartt.
I wouldn't be surprised if they use a quarantine to create a new piano model.

The square piano mp3 sounds very natural, the kind of vintage natural sound.

Last edited by Beto-Music (19-03-2020 03:14)

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Beto-Music wrote:

Covid-19 can't stop Modartt.
I would be not surprised if they use a quarantine to create a new piano model.

A felt Fazioli!

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Superb! - these types of instruments are the stuff of my dreams for many reasons - really so pleased.

Insta-into-my-collection! (just finished that before posting this, couldn't wait I s'pose).

BTW the other updates to Pianoteq itself include:


* Introducing the Karsten Collection.
* Resonance equalizer added in the equalizer panel (Pianoteq STD and PRO).
* Keyboard shortcut for MIDI panic added.
* Fix issue where the pedal noise was sometimes interrupted by a silent keypress.
* Fix issue with multi-channel output on Linux.


Particularly appreciative of the resonance equalizer.

Many thanks Philippe and the team for so many insightful advances and the new instruments which really are superb!

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https://www.modartt.com/audio/karsten/P...Ridder.mp3

Check out Piet's piece - as a nice "Easter Egg" within the historical instrument collection Modartt has packaged a really fine Sitar (some assembly required - Piet, will you post your FXP file?).

:-D

- David

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Oh wow, I'm always happy to welcome new additions to the historical collection, and square pianos have been on my wish list for a long time. Bravo!
The Resonance EQ looks like it will be a fantastic tool for subtle tonal shaping - but it only gets a brief mention (one sentence) in the manual! A bit more detail, and some examples of usage, would be appreciated.

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The new Resonance controls are a major new feature, it seems, since the there are two panes--one to EQ the resonance and a second pane that lets us control the duration of specific frequencies in the resonance. A little staggering--I'm imagining using these new panes in conjunction with mic placement and hammer hardness and everything else to shape the tone. A little overwhelming, actually.

Last edited by Jake Johnson (19-03-2020 15:06)

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I’m still having a little trouble with my microphone placement.  I see nowhere I can put it on the piano.

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When I discovered the availability of the new Karsten collection pack early this morning, I had so much confidence in Modartt that for the first time, I bought it before I even tried it.
I do not regret it is a treat. I will say no more this evening, after a hard day of teleworking for my hospital which is preparing for a big wave of new patients in the emergency room, I can't wait to take advantage of it ... Bravo to the whole Pianoteq team which also helps us to soften these difficult times with these very beautiful instruments ...

Bruno

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bm wrote:

When I discovered the availability of the new Karsten collection pack early this morning, I had so much confidence in Modartt that for the first time, I bought it before I even tried it.
I do not regret it is a treat. I will say no more this evening, after a hard day of teleworking for my hospital which is preparing for a big wave of new patients in the emergency room, I can't wait to take advantage of it ... Bravo to the whole Pianoteq team which also helps us to soften these difficult times with these very beautiful instruments ...

Bruno

well in Covid-19 times off-topic first - from a medicine in my family I got a paper where they wrote that from March 21 on people over 80 did not get the help of ventilators/respirators in parts of France... how horrible....just opiates and pain relievers.... tells something about how important health and health care systems are. ( to go very off topic - under german leadership the EU forced Italy to close down many hospitals, fire doctors and nurses, save "resources". Now people are dying there, and they lack hospitals and more.) This all is unbelievably cruel, and we can just hope that many people might wake up now and see what is really important. (This is a piano forum so I'll have to force myself to stop here).

I learnt about the new historic instruments a bit later and am - as always with Modartt - stunned. Such truly wonderful new additions to an already highly impressive list of fortepianos and instruments. There is nothing like it. And besides the 2 square pianos the wonderful full Giusti harpsichord! I am no piano-history-connoisseur and had no clue a Giusti even existed - and it sounds so beautiful. And then the subtleness of the virginal...

Allow me to praise the Schuhplattler in the demo-section, by N.Shirley. A "Schuhplattler" in the dim and distant past was a dance where the man, who dances and, well, clomps and strikes his shoes and the knees, tried to attract his beloved^^. Only later men danced alone on stage and it was to be a kind of ooooh-those-people-in-the-alps. My small hometown in Germany was once the biggest shoe-manufacturing city (until the cheap shoe-industry killed that). And as jokes some of the older hometown people always said they had invented the "Schuhplattler". Which in fact was age old, and from the Alps. This song by N.Shirley is a very nice example demo for the new Schmidt square piano.

Wonderful instruments all around!

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Hi bm and Klemperer,

These new pianos really go a long distance in making the current times more enjoyable.

Inevitable that we will be sharing concerns about the pandemic - it's pretty on topic by default these days I feel.

At home, we're facing all kinds of restrictions on movement and it's already prohibited us from seeing family (plans out the window for maybe months). That gets very real when those relatives we miss are aged - feels we are robbed of very basic human needs and time itself.

Really just hoping yourself and everyone's OK and things need not become much worse before things slowly return to some normality (maybe some improvements here and there from lessons learned would be something to also hope for).

Take good care.

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Covid-19 will take a hard time on old people. Until a vacine it's ready, or until the virus get weak by mutation, like happened with H1N1 (today a usual flu).
Age as the only factor to allow ventilator... They should also check criminal records, and not just age.

Let's hope the imunologic social barrier, that happens when 80% of people develop imunity against a virus, don't take long. Some scientists speculate that covid-19 infected a lot more people than was thought, but the majority would not developed symptons and would had healed quickly.

With the new test kits of test, much less expensive and able to detect antibodies againd covid-19, they will manage to alleatory test population, instead of test just who have fever or just who have fever and breath difficulty. This would help get a much more preciser idea about how many people got covid-19 and how much get imunity.

What about a pianoteq contest for incentivize people to stay at home? Not just playing, but showing how art, music and other things can be used to make things less hard during the lockdown.

Last edited by Beto-Music (31-03-2020 14:10)

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Better late than never: we just published Karsten's collection video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUgxj3Rxlck with a beautiful music from Piet De Ridder, enjoy!

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Philippe Guillaume wrote:

Better late than never: we just published Karsten's collection video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUgxj3Rxlck with a beautiful music from Piet De Ridder, enjoy!

Wonderful music! This was absolutely beautiful. Piet put his heart and soul into this. Pianoteqenthusiast just gave a standing ovation
Yes Philippe, I close my eyes and listen, listen and enjoy!

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Over the top.

Lanny

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Oh wow the video, so sublime and evocative - hats off - such extraordinary work, all!

I'm pretty spell-bound by these, esp. seems for me, the 1808 J. Weimes pianoforte. Really beautiful to get lost in its character. In a way it really is like 'the pianoforte' I've always wished for - didn't know of it's existence before this.

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tmyoung wrote:

Modarrt has finally emulated a Steinway Square piano!  There's a new instrument pack with several early piano designs.  Steinway achieved his fame first and foremost for his square pianos, so having access to this should be very instructive for looking at the kind of pianos you would find a regular home during middle and latter portion of the 19th Century (Uprights are a more 20th Century entity than an earlier one).

I know these will be useful for the kind of research and writing I do, but I'm also looking forward to the samples that the community creates.  Thank you Modarrt for continuing to assist in historical instrument preservation (and sparing me trying to figure out how to emulate a square piano using existing instrument packs)! ;)

Example of a Steinway Square piano:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1TK1x9fO9o

Frequently, I have made posts about the lack of American grand pianos —like Baldwins, NY Steinways, Etc.— being anywhere represented.  Now I’ve come to the conclusion quite likely, that they have been seen only as outspoken complaints and even criticisms against MODARTT itself and its team outright.

If MODARTT or anyone at it has a sense of humor, I am nobody now laughing at it.

Modarrt has finally emulated a Steinway Square piano!

The so-called square piano is from a period in antebellum American history!

Steinway achieved his fame first and foremost for his square pianos, so having access to this should be very instructive for looking at the kind of pianos you would find a regular home during middle and latter portion of the 19th Century (Uprights are a more 20th Century entity than an earlier one).

Regularly now I hear mentioned some new normal.  However, I may become very interested to read: the writings of the man from Utah (where personally I lived and as a youngster there attended a school).  (Which is now a university campus, a research one, having its own research library.)

I know these will be useful for the kind of research and writing I do, but I'm also looking forward to the samples that the community creates.  Thank you Modarrt for continuing to assist in historical instrument preservation (and sparing me trying to figure out how to emulate a square piano using existing instrument packs)! ;)

Last edited by Amen Ptah Ra (12-04-2020 19:20)
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Beautiful presentation video!

Well done,

Warmest regards,

Chris

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Klemperer wrote:

Allow me to praise the Schuhplattler in the demo-section, by N.Shirley. A "Schuhplattler" in the dim and distant past was a dance where the man, who dances and, well, clomps and strikes his shoes and the knees, tried to attract his beloved^^. Only later men danced alone on stage and it was to be a kind of ooooh-those-people-in-the-alps. My small hometown in Germany was once the biggest shoe-manufacturing city (until the cheap shoe-industry killed that). And as jokes some of the older hometown people always said they had invented the "Schuhplattler". Which in fact was age old, and from the Alps. This song by N.Shirley is a very nice example demo for the new Schmidt square piano.

Very glad you enjoyed the Schuhplattler, it's one of many pieces from my piano method series which has just been released. The Karsten collection really is a fantastic set of instruments, so much variety and character.