Page 16 of the user guide says the interface is divided into two parts, an Instrument Section and an Audio Engineering Section. I only see the Audio Engineering Section. I don't see a button/link/tab/anything! that opens up the "three instrument section panels," nor have I found anything in the manual that tells me how to access them. Can someone explain to me how I get to that panel?
"Three instrument section panels" sounds like Pianoteq, not Organteq.
"Three instrument section panels" sounds like Pianoteq, not Organteq.
Yes, it's Pianoteq. I don't understand your reply. Isn't this the "Pianoteq user forum?"
If you have the Stage version, this is normal (see https://www.modartt.com/pianoteq_stage). If you have Standard or Pro, you can toggle the compact view under the Window menu entry (in the standalone version) or click and move the rounded portion of the interface up or down. There is also a keyboard shortcut available (see the Options/General pane) Default is: Ctrl + =
If you have the Stage version, this is normal (see https://www.modartt.com/pianoteq_stage).
I have the Stage version. But your link sends me to a page that just says, "Not Found
The requested URL /pianoteq_stage). was not found on this server."
That being said, I'm guessing the reason I'm not seeing what the manual shows is because it's not available in Stage. If so, it would be nice if the manual identified which features are available in one version but not another!
Section 1.3 in the manual describes what you're looking for:
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Pianoteq is available in three versions:
PIANOTEQ STAGE is for musicians who want to plug it in and play without tweaking the physical model. It includes standard features such as velocity curve, dynamics, action settings, EQ, tremolo, wah-wah, chorus, flanger, phaser, compressor and other effects.
PIANOTEQ STANDARD offers in addition powerful tools to tweak and adapt the physical model, as well as the positions of the microphones.
PIANOTEQ PRO goes even further. Its Note Edit feature allows those who require complete freedom in note shaping to edit the parameters note-by-note.
...
Totally understand, it may be good to have separate manuals for each release - but, if I bought Stage and some years later wanted more, it's all there in the one manual (which is pretty detailed and well laid out).
The Link Gilles provided has an errant bracket and full stop at the end by mistake - this is what it was meant to point to:
Modartt Pianoteq Stage info page
If you click the button "Compare Stage/Standard/PRO" on that page, a pop-up with relevant info appears.
Maybe if you're having trouble finding that pop-up, there's the same info if you scroll down to the bottom of this link:
To save a click though, here's the gist for convenience.
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Included instrument packs (*see note 1 at bottom):
Stage = 2
Standard = 3
Pro = 4All 3 versions have:
Includes KIViR historical instruments
VST, AU, AAX, NKS, Standalone
EQ, velocity curve, reverb unit
Preset (fxp) loading (**see note 2 at bottom)If you have Stage and wonder what you miss, here's what Standard and Pro provide.
Standard and Pro additionally have:
Piano model tweaking
Advanced tuning
Microphones setting
Loads external reverb impulsesPro additionally has:
Thousands of editable overtones
Note-per-note edit 3 (***see note 3 at bottom)
Supports up to 192 kHz audio (****see note 4 at bottom)Notes:
* [1] Concerns new purchases from 2019 onward. During registration, you can choose two instrument packs with the Stage version, three with the Standard version and four with the PRO version. These instrument packs are fully working whereas remaining instrument packs are available in demo mode for your evaluation. You can purchase additional instrument packs at any time.
** [2] In PIANOTEQ Stage, preset loading is limited to parameters that are present in the interface. Presets built with PIANOTEQ PRO can be loaded in PIANOTEQ Standard without limitation.
*** [3] PIANOTEQ PRO lets you edit 30 parameters for each note on your keyboard. In PIANOTEQ Standard, you can explore this feature with the volume and the detune parameter.
**** [4] PIANOTEQ PRO offers an internal sample rate of up to 192 kHz. Up to 48 kHz in PIANOTEQ Stage and Standard.
...
My recommendation is take your sweet time enjoying the product - it'll take anyone a lot of time to understand all that's baked in (and you can learn it fine yourself by exploring), even in Stage - and the upgrades are absolutely worth it, if you want the extra detail to design your own instruments or just make fine adjustments.
If you don't like to tweak things too much, but would like to fully load the FXP preset files from the Pianoteq FXP Corner, then Standard would be likely more than enough
Cheers.
Gilles wrote:If you have the Stage version, this is normal (see https://www.modartt.com/pianoteq_stage).
I have the Stage version. But your link sends me to a page that just says, "Not Found
The requested URL /pianoteq_stage). was not found on this server."
Sorry! Forgot to leave a blank space before the parenthesis...
Section 1.3 in the manual describes what you're looking for:
...
Pianoteq is available in three versions:
PIANOTEQ STAGE is for musicians who want to plug it in and play without tweaking the physical model. It includes standard features such as velocity curve, dynamics, action settings, EQ, tremolo, wah-wah, chorus, flanger, phaser, compressor and other effects.
PIANOTEQ STANDARD offers in addition powerful tools to tweak and adapt the physical model, as well as the positions of the microphones.
PIANOTEQ PRO goes even further. Its Note Edit feature allows those who require complete freedom in note shaping to edit the parameters note-by-note.
...
Totally understand, it may be good to have separate manuals for each release - but, if I bought Stage and some years later wanted more, it's all there in the one manual (which is pretty detailed and well laid out).
The Link Gilles provided has an errant bracket and full stop at the end by mistake - this is what it was meant to point to:
Modartt Pianoteq Stage info page
If you click the button "Compare Stage/Standard/PRO" on that page, a pop-up with relevant info appears.
Maybe if you're having trouble finding that pop-up, there's the same info if you scroll down to the bottom of this link:
To save a click though, here's the gist for convenience.
...
Included instrument packs (*see note 1 at bottom):
Stage = 2
Standard = 3
Pro = 4All 3 versions have:
Includes KIViR historical instruments
VST, AU, AAX, NKS, Standalone
EQ, velocity curve, reverb unit
Preset (fxp) loading (**see note 2 at bottom)If you have Stage and wonder what you miss, here's what Standard and Pro provide.
Standard and Pro additionally have:
Piano model tweaking
Advanced tuning
Microphones setting
Loads external reverb impulsesPro additionally has:
Thousands of editable overtones
Note-per-note edit 3 (***see note 3 at bottom)
Supports up to 192 kHz audio (****see note 4 at bottom)Notes:
* [1] Concerns new purchases from 2019 onward. During registration, you can choose two instrument packs with the Stage version, three with the Standard version and four with the PRO version. These instrument packs are fully working whereas remaining instrument packs are available in demo mode for your evaluation. You can purchase additional instrument packs at any time.
** [2] In PIANOTEQ Stage, preset loading is limited to parameters that are present in the interface. Presets built with PIANOTEQ PRO can be loaded in PIANOTEQ Standard without limitation.
*** [3] PIANOTEQ PRO lets you edit 30 parameters for each note on your keyboard. In PIANOTEQ Standard, you can explore this feature with the volume and the detune parameter.
**** [4] PIANOTEQ PRO offers an internal sample rate of up to 192 kHz. Up to 48 kHz in PIANOTEQ Stage and Standard.
...
My recommendation is take your sweet time enjoying the product - it'll take anyone a lot of time to understand all that's baked in (and you can learn it fine yourself by exploring), even in Stage - and the upgrades are absolutely worth it, if you want the extra detail to design your own instruments or just make fine adjustments.
If you don't like to tweak things too much, but would like to fully load the FXP preset files from the Pianoteq FXP Corner, then Standard would be likely more than enough
Cheers.
Thanks for the information. I don't see why the answer would have to be separate manuals for each release. How hard would it be just to notate the one manual to indicate that the specific feature being discussed at any particular point in the manual is "available only Pro," or "not available on Stage?" That "description" you reference in 1.3 is too broad as well as too removed from the specific feature descriptions to identify the distinctions.
EvilDragon wrote:"Three instrument section panels" sounds like Pianoteq, not Organteq.
Yes, it's Pianoteq. I don't understand your reply. Isn't this the "Pianoteq user forum?"
Ah, haha. Sorry, I thought I was reading the Organteq subforum. Oops!
Thanks for the information.
Not a problem.
Your feedback about the manual could help keep improving it, thanks jocar37.
BTW, you can install demos of each tier - just so you know, even if something's not clear from the manual, the website, or the forum - why not install a demo of Standard and/or Pro? and see if they do what you want. If you've already bought Stage, the upgrades to Standard/Pro or the Studio bundle is logical, without loaded costs compared to buying them outright.
Don't take it wrong - but in time, esp. with trying out the demos with all the features, you'll soon be good with what the differences are, manual or not - some things are better on paper, but some things are best experienced, well that's just IMO anyway
Cheers.