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I do so enjoy Pianoteq updates

Yes, cannot see the changelog...

Nice sound that Kalimba Spacey...sounds like a more percussive Celesta. Very good idea the compact version for Std/Pro. Will be helpful for small screen laptops! The window position memorize/restore keyboard shortcuts are still not in the Window menu though as I had suggested. A useful option but not very obvious.

There is a bug with the full screen mode for Mac (but maybe it's because I still use an older version 10.9.5): the GUI does not go to the bottom. There is a void corresponding to the dock but the dock is not visible.

EDIT: That bug (or feature) is also on 6.5.1 but I had not noticed...

Kalimbas are fascinating! I have one which I bought from a craft market some years ago. If memory serves, there's a brief scene in the classic Bogart / Hepburn movie The African Queen in which a young boy is playing a kalimba.

Charmed by the Kalimba! (unexpected - kind of special to me) Thank you so much.

MKII is unbelievably good, great stuff.

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The inharmonicity update seems to make all the pianos a little richer and silkier, esp. in the high frequencies - replaced some tiny elements of sizzle for me, with something closer to full clarity in high notes from hammer to tailing tails - lovely - and breaths even more new life into the presets where I use convolution reverbs.

(Thank you also to sigasa for kindly posting this thread, otherwise it's likely that I would have missed out on this enjoyable update today)

I do not know if it's the effect of the heat wave (37 ° celcius today) or the fact that I return to the piano after two months without playing but it seems to me that the version 6.5.2 is gaining a lot in clarity , precision and presence

it's so nice to see that during my break Pianoteq has continued to evolve.

Man, I welcome any interface improvement.  And, it's scrollable too!

Is there a way to get notifications about updates?

If you have an open internet connection when you launch Pianoteq, you will get an alert if a new version is available.

I use both Mac and Linux, and I never got u notification of a new version... I had my network enabled.

Pretty interesting indeed. Thanks.

I learn about them on this forum as well..

Yes, I want to know the details ..

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Updates always inspire some interesting guesses. This one certainly does. The new flexibility (for wont of a better word) in strings/sympathetic resonances leads to a lot of possibilities.

To me, seems less linearity and quicker/realistic drop in high order overtones, particularly noted on right hand.

That pack of ever higher overtones to the right of spectrum seems less linearly crowded esp. within high notes, like tapering away quicker post transient (or a deep comb filter, or maybe opposing organic shaped filters are vibrating gently together, fast to slow through that forest in some fractional ms range - feels like eluding to something vibrational from the harp in that sense), regardless this a lot closer to reality once again.

Maybe adjustments related to sympathetic resonance are related to that too, in that the sympathetic elements are more organically matching to each other (rather than many/most interacting with many/most others - rather an organic sub-set more realistically reacting with a smaller sub-set - and this may fluctuate with ranges in terms of piano, polyphony, un-matched velocities and other varied similar factors).

Feeling like something else is more alive in the mix also - but I'm thinking, the net result of the alterations mean the more of the model can interact more rationally too.

Just stunning how each careful attendant alteration seems such a masterful thing. Always impressed. Happy if my hunches are not even remotely correct and always love to learn more but leaving it here in case any of that impressionistic expressionism helps inform impact or further tweaks.

[My maths/physics is lay-man level but profoundly it interests me enough that I'm always considering how it's done although my lay guesses may be wrong I can at least hope my artistic processing of my limited understanding might help synthesize further ideas.]

My update, before this one, I got without any software notification while my iMac was connected online.  However, this update did come with a yellow alert once I connected to the Pianoteq website.

Thank you very much for the details.

Not always placebo. We have had a few improvements before this. I'm sure it will still take time to appreciate the recent improvements over various models, so likely impossible to pinpoint which change was responsible for the improvements you enjoyed.

Also human hearing varies on a day to day basis. Loudspeaker performance can change with room temperatures too. The elasticity of the driver cone rubber surrounds will change performance parameters of a loudspeaker drive units, so the warm weather can change the playback system too.

Yes, definitely could be that then Philippe, many thanks!

Re: my first post on this thread, I will edit to shine a light.

Ha, true Key Fumbler, it's been pretty cold where I am, so it's possible my ears need defrosting, not to mention the noggin they're attached to

Personally I am far from perfect, but that's irrelevant here.

Most of the time loudspeakers will be operating at a comfortable room temperature so will operate within expected parameters (at their technical best). It is just something to bear in mind in heatwaves in rooms without air conditioning temperature control - if you think the sound has changed it may be a mechanical factor.

Anyway I am taking this thread off topic with this diversion. The latest updates sound great through speakers and headphones.

And I do like this Steingraeber news: “The Steingraeber piano factory is now equipping Steingraeber acoustic pianos with a silent system provided by Excellent Piano Installs A. Dütz - the maker of the adsilent silent system.

For Steingraeber pianos the adsilent system comes with the "Steingraeber Virtual Recording" sound obtained from the Pianoteq reproduction of their Steingraeber E-272 Grand Piano: https://www.steingraeber.de/en/steingra...nt-pianos“

I just finished a first build of .fxp with my 1992 Schimmel T130 upright, from the Pianoteq U4 model, playing on the length of strings.
Link for the .fxp file:
https://www.forum-pianoteq.com/file/da7c6r82
I tested for the first time a sound recording with 7 Rode Mics (including 5 preserved), link on the sound recording:
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipM...ZXSWxyNlBB
Link on the spectrum profile recovery (amateur) method, after having previously adjusted the length of the strings in Pianoteq pro for match (attempt) with the partials of each note (between virtual instrument and real instrument):
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipM...ZXSWxyNlBB
and (to prepare the calculation of the partial level adjustment):
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipM...ZXSWxyNlBB

The result is in my opinion moderately satisfactory because the room (7.5 x 6.5m) is quite reverberant (tiled floor, despite 2 carpets) and microphones remain cheap models.
I also encountered a pedal management problem (damper) that with the U4 model of pianoteq behaves in a bizarre way.

I will do a second modeling of the T130 soon, only from 2 new microphones acquired (SE-8 match pair) whose results are very promising, (much better than my Rodes) - ditto use an audio interface Audient ID14, to Tascam Us 16x8 place used here. These tests on Schimmel will allow me to prepare a next model of our Bosendorfer 200 grand piano, which I await the return of the keyboard currently being restored.

Bruno

+1. I'm hugely impressed by this 'Schimmel' fxp - excellent 'you are there' presence, very much looking forward to the follow-up version!

Hello Gilles,

It remains - indeed - important differences between the real instrument and the .fxp v0.71 and many adjustments to make, especially on low medium and low ... (This T130 has the particularity of a tuning the mechanism by my tuner to strengthen a little the sound level of the last octave)
To quickly try to limit this problem of bass, but with other edge effects, I added 2 variants of .fxp

(V0.71a): Variation with reversed phase on the rear microphone.
https://www.forum-pianoteq.com/file/9871vvo5
(V0.71b) Only small adjustments on spectrum profile for B1 & B2
https://www.forum-pianoteq.com/file/4qeindti

I also added below, a link to load an extract of the sound recording with the tracks of the 7 original Rode microphones (24bit 96Khz) for Audacity (about 1 GB to unzip): http://dl.free.fr/nh0Y3hbgi

I hope that the best sound taken, opened T130 piano with only a couple of SE8 mics matched & an interface Audient ID14, will allow my next .fxp to avoid this problem in part. (see 2 pictures for the 1st recording:
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipM...ZXSWxyNlBB
and:
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipM...ZXSWxyNlBB

Overview of this first sound recording with these 2 mics SE-8 (real instrument T130) (0.42 GB flac file): http://dl.free.fr/wfMgBjKhd

Bruno

New FXP1: Schimmel T130, adjusted profile spectrum with 2 mics SE8 (match pair) in AB position at 50 cm from the hammers, front case removed. Here too, the length of the strings was previously adjusted for each note to adjust the partials of the virtual instrument to those of the real instrument.
Schimmel-T130-2Mics-SE8-V0.71 :
https://www.forum-pianoteq.com/file/3sv01a3r

New FXP2: Schimmel T130, same profile as V0.71 but here with 5 ptq virtual mics, to better reproduce the acoustics of a living room of 6.5 x 7.5m in player position.
Schimmel-T130-2Mics-SE8-V0.71X 5 :
https://www.forum-pianoteq.com/file/7uvadcy1

cf pictures for the sound recording on the real instrument:
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipM...ZXSWxyNlBB
and
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipM...ZXSWxyNlBB

Advice and criticism would be welcome to try to improve the timbre of these virtual instruments, especially in the low medium and the medium.
From the 2 audio comparisons: (virtual versus real)
https://www.forum-pianoteq.com/download.php?id=3431
and
https://www.forum-pianoteq.com/download.php?id=3432
I note that the duration of the sound of the virtual instrument remains abnormally long.

Bruno