Strange display of the forum

Go to your user profile, Settings, then change the skin from Oxygen to Pianoteq.

Yes, the Pianoteq skin has changed/forum software updated.

Is it just me, who finds the new style/skin hard to read?
It is greyish and lacks contrast on my monitor. 

Readability is only better in the reply-window. Arbitrary example screenshot:

Posts that I was just reading have disappeared. Hopefully it's just a temporary phase.

Indeed, but sometimes it is necessary to update the forum software to a new version, maybe such things as security and standards compliance cannot be or are not going to be implemented in the version previously used. Configuration or customisations that worked on the older version may break or need to be done differently on the new one.

The main problem for me currently is, whether using IE or Firefox, when I'm logged in, some topics lose the final posts and the bottom page header. To simultaneously post and read, I need to be logged in using one browser for posting, and be not logged in using a different browser to read the complete topic.

I tried to reproduce this issue in IE, Chrome, Firefox or Safari, without success.

Did you try to reload the page using Ctrl+Shift+R ? It may reload all the page resources, such as CSS and Javascript.

Can you write to our support and detail your problem, with a screenshot of the bottom of the page if possible.

Oxygen theme should not be a problem anymore.

If you go to the forum without using a login, then everything is displayed normally:

If you log in, then some messages disappear. Unable to edit your posts:

And there are icons:

Yes, now everything is fine.  Thank!

The color of the background is near white (#F9F9F9), and the text is a dark grey, close to black (#333333) for both normal text and quotation box.
Depending on the display device too much contrast is not good either.

The Oxygen theme has been changed with a full white/black constrast.

To make it clearer (just paraphrasing):

Style Pianoteq
Normal text is grey on light grey (#333333 on #F9F9F9).
Quote is grey on white (#333333 on #FFFFFF).

Now you tried black on white in the alternative style Oxygen for normal text, thank you for that experiment, gjoly!

In my humble opinion the quote should be changed to black on white in Oyxgen also, because the tiny quote-fonts would be better readable and the frame and indention is already sufficient to mark the text as quote.

See my screenshot of Oxygen, how it looks at the moment (after your change) ->

Better, but nor fish nor flesh

Ok. It will be done.

Thank you very much, gjoly!

The white background in Oxygen helps a lot now.

Quote-text is just grey, but that's okay.

Hey groovy, depending on your browser, in settings there may be some settings to help with that. (more targeted than just user pressing + and - on front end).

Eg. Firefox,

preferences,
fonts and colors,
then "Advanced"

- you see typical choices, but look for "Minimum Font Size" - that should be the kicker to up that to the same or closer to the main size

Text looks OK on various browsers to me, just tested both skins too.

So on Chrome based browsers the text is smaller in quotes for me by default but not as bad as your screenshot (maybe you have a large screen or something but still should be fixable)

In Crome, go

settings,
look for font,
the one below says "Custom Fonts",
open that and like above, choose a minimum font size

If you can't solve it in your settings (if using a browser without those settings), you may be able to get some browser extension which alters some formatting..

"Stylish" iirc for Firefox allows you to make a few simple changes to certain elements.

That's probably more work than most would like to do though.. but maybe other browsers have similar or easier ways now? (Haven't used such tools for a while now myself).

But, hopefully, your prob should be history with the regular "minimum font" trick.

[Edit: you to your]

Aha groovy, I see - in Firefox the website is telling the browser to render a smaller font in the quotes so..

Also UN-check the box in Firefox in that advanced font dialog:

"Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of your selections above".

That should hit it. Now, your browser is in charge of that sizing issue.

Fingers crossed for you that it works

...

in case not, if some other stranger things (maybe like some system-wide font setting):

try choosing different fonts for serif, sans-serif and monospace.

Your screenshot shows a sans-serif font - so I'd try

"Verdana"

or

"Tahoma"

first, if "Ariel" seems no good at that lower size.

I like Verdana on screen - to me, always better - Tahoma next for my money - both valuable because they've both been very "well liked and used heavily" for years - should work well across lots of web UI.

Oh, dear yes - web dev since before the IE4 days, before CSS was finally accepted - definitely, if you like hearing about these seemingly crazy things, and why, just ask any clued up web person over a certain age The text sizes... just the entrance of that whole rabbit hole heheh

Cheers.

Hey groovy - nearly got it >> UN-check that - that's the trick, don't leave it checked.

Close but no cigar yet.. but so close! We would want to see that you have selected NOT to allow websites to choose their own fonts - you want your browser ones to be king.

Yeah, a lot of CSS styling may set font size in more than one way and there's older CSS, current CSS conventions, mixed often with plain HTML on website - and every browser will have all their own quirks mode to cope.

But making sure that the check box is blank instead of checked should do it

[Edit to add - overlooked that you may be happy with DejaVu Whatever quirks best, works best is best, cheers! Also added: I do love Linux, though use Win a lot (mainly for commercial software - but not disliking post 8.1 in many ways with custom tweaks) - Debian was such a fav for setting up servers - superb stack for so long - so good. Usually hop distros on desk - no clear fav lately. I think we need more Linux in the world - makes happy computer people ]

Right you are groovy, just wasn't certain you got:

Check that box

vs. the prefered

Un-Check that box

I struggle with less words, always my bad. I honestly do try. Hope I'm improving - would be awesome to get the same detail together without feeling need to be more intricate - but if tech writing, it's all bullet points.. I try injecting that kind of thing too here but worry it reads back like a robot lol.

Glad to know you can enjoy the forum better now!