Topic: midi-off/audio-reset key binding?

on the main interface the little "!" button to reset audio and turn off all midi is very helpful when recording (using the "recently played" function rather than formally using the record feature), and I'd like to attach it to a key binding for quick access but am unable to find a listing for it in the midi bindings interface... am I just being obtuse and missing something obvious, or is it not in fact available to be so bound?
many thanks & cheers,
dj

Matthieu 7:6

Re: midi-off/audio-reset key binding?

Heya _DJ_,

likewise I can't find a way to bind that button. (old fashioned panic buttons are often hard coded and kept separate from us meddling kids for good reason I suppose).

But your question sure set off a train of thought.

I first thought you meant you were able to stop/break 'on-the-fly recording' (exciting! that would be brilliant) with a press of that button but in testing, the ! panic button doesn't stop on-the-fly recording for me.

For example, I test by playing 3 notes, pressing the ! button, then playing another 3 notes. The result is still an auto-saved 6 note 'recently played' MIDI file (not two 3 note files). 

Maybe I misunderstand your question/usage (and you may have been meaning this - but while it's in mind and if Modartt folks are reading) I tried to make something like this happen in a few different ways but couldn't so far. (maybe someone has done this somehow?)

I currently resort to the still simple tried-and-true trick (2 clicks)..

By clicking the area where by default the "Blues Demo" appears, opens the list - and I do that to stop the 'recently played' routine (but a controller mapped option would be very cool). Ex. play 3 notes, click the list "recently played" shows a 3 note MIDI file.. and whatever you play next is a new file and so on.

But, it's still a routine, such as: Find mouse, hover, click, click again, back to piano.

A mapped controller button to press to send "save that improv to a finished file now" would be a very slick move (saving post editing and renaming chunks, or some other collection routines).

But, how to map that? No luck so far.. It might be a really nice addition to have the normal "stop" button in the inbuilt MIDI player to also trigger a break in 'recently played' recording - so we can easily map that button to do it (but that may introduce MIDI gremlins, so a unique button might be preferable).

I tend to just play and go in later to cut off beginnings and endings of those files, saving them to a 'somewhat more finished' pile for now - or if time doesn't allow this, just name them "jazzy-something-OK-near-end.mid".

Really mice idea you raised DJ, would allow instant real-time control (seemingly irrelevant until you add up the later editing) and would convert a lot of small-time cognitive interference back into staying seated and in the zone time - I'd certainly find it useful to trigger between performances and even if an improv goes in a different direction, single click to make sure I don't end up with one file with 2 or more things I'd rather turn out separately - would save a little editing fuss.

About 'panic button' in MIDI, it's probably something that could be good to map but I've found most implementations seem pretty hard coded (probably being a last resort thing historically, it's good to be known to be in one place only).

My digital keyboard has a lone "panic" button which I also can use to restart MIDI - but I'd probably want to leave that alone for mapping other uses, in case the day comes when I really need the panic function.

I'd like to map the 'record' button on my keyboard (it's internally set to be disarmed - but that button has the right name for this function

Food for thought.

Pianoteq Studio Bundle (Pro plus all instruments)  - Kawai MP11 digital piano - Yamaha HS8 monitors

Re: midi-off/audio-reset key binding?

Qexl wrote:

I first thought you meant you were able to stop/break 'on-the-fly recording' (exciting! that would be brilliant) with a press of that button but in testing, the ! panic button doesn't stop on-the-fly recording for me.

For example, I test by playing 3 notes, pressing the ! button, then playing another 3 notes. The result is still an auto-saved 6 note 'recently played' MIDI file (not two 3 note files).


that is indeed what i mean, and it does actually work, but the catch is you have to wait a few seconds for the engine to reset... to monitor this i watch the cpu meter in the performance tab; initially sending the midi-off signal creates a little "bump" in cpu use and when this bump has scrolled off the meter's "screen" you're good to go with a now fresh slate...


I currently resort to the still simple tried-and-true trick (2 clicks)..

By clicking the area where by default the "Blues Demo" appears, opens the list - and I do that to stop the 'recently played' routine (but a controller mapped option would be very cool). Ex. play 3 notes, click the list "recently played" shows a 3 note MIDI file.. and whatever you play next is a new file and so on.

But, it's still a routine, such as: Find mouse, hover, click, click again, back to piano.


ooh!  that's a neat trick that i was completely unaware of and which seems more efficient perhaps than using the midi-off button.  'learn something new everyday... thanks for that Qexl!  it's true that either method doesn't really take very long, but (and perhaps i'm just being princess-and-the-pea here) i find that having to go back to the interface and interact with the mouse disrupts my concentration/groove some, whereas having a key-mapped solution would allow one to stay focused at the instrument.  it's nothing really terrible and, as a seasoned performer, it really shouldn't be an issue, but for those of us sensitive souls out there (read: "on the spectrum" ) it sure would be a helpful feature...



A mapped controller button to press to send "save that improv to a finished file now" would be a very slick move (saving post editing and renaming chunks, or some other collection routines).

But, how to map that? No luck so far.. It might be a really nice addition to have the normal "stop" button in the inbuilt MIDI player to also trigger a break in 'recently played' recording - so we can easily map that button to do it (but that may introduce MIDI gremlins, so a unique button might be preferable).

I tend to just play and go in later to cut off beginnings and endings of those files, saving them to a 'somewhat more finished' pile for now - or if time doesn't allow this, just name them "jazzy-something-OK-near-end.mid".

Really mice idea you raised DJ, would allow instant real-time control (seemingly irrelevant until you add up the later editing) and would convert a lot of small-time cognitive interference back into staying seated and in the zone time - I'd certainly find it useful to trigger between performances and even if an improv goes in a different direction, single click to make sure I don't end up with one file with 2 or more things I'd rather turn out separately - would save a little editing fuss.

+1 

Matthieu 7:6

Re: midi-off/audio-reset key binding?

I think our pods are indeed somewhat similar at times DJ

Oh, yes, holding down 1 second (or so) is just that tad longer than a click - would drive me... up the spectrum a tad hehe. The jumping on mouse, refocus, click etc.. agree as you say, not a huge deal but certainly a slick quality of life improvement seems possible here.

I'd love to just hit my keyboard's hardware "record" or "stop" button or any others (no 1 second hold) to save out a file in the current auto-recording process - Ooh,

BETTER maybe, also have these files sent to another predetermined fold of choice!

Like "../currentautosaves/buttonsaves/date-time-etc-as-above.mid

It just would short list without any effort. Ah!

Sometimes you just know you need to keep what you just played and to quarantine it with a click.. hmm. Currently, if I remember to during a prolonged session or sessions, I'll open recently played, load the files, choose among them for those moments worth keeping etc. (depending on goals), maybe chop off begin or end, then rename and save to final destination.. over and over this adds up and I'm still left with naming files and choosing destination - so it would solve maybe 80% of the chore quotient.

The main pile of un-edited ones (by the thousands) await the day(s) I have the patience to re-view, if at all that happens. One click to just keep something good for later, in a short-list folder strikes me as much better than all the above right now.

Perhaps a neat feature suggestion for the Modartt team?

Pianoteq Studio Bundle (Pro plus all instruments)  - Kawai MP11 digital piano - Yamaha HS8 monitors