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Topic: Piano range of Steinway D and others

The spectrum profile of the Steinway D shows it has seventeen more notes than the other pianos. The range of harmonics is longer one the Steinway D model than the others, twelve more at the bass end and five more at the high end. If you freeze the range of the others unto the Steinway D they are all shorter in range. Is this the case in real life? All the others have the same range.

What would the others sound like if they had the same range as the Steinway D? Would you be able to tweak more out of them?

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Re: Piano range of Steinway D and others

The real life counterparts of all the modern Pianoteq grands have 88 keys. It's very unusual for a piano to have more than this, but the most famous exception is the Bösendorfer Imperial with 97. There's a few others as well.

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Re: Piano range of Steinway D and others

johnstaf wrote:

The real life counterparts of all the modern Pianoteq grands have 88 keys. It's very unusual for a piano to have more than this, but the most famous exception is the Bösendorfer Imperial with 97. There's a few others as well.

Maybe notes is the wrong terminology for describing the range.
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Re: Piano range of Steinway D and others

DonSmith wrote:

Would you be able to tweak more out of them?

Spectrum profile just shows how many notes you have available to tweak, and this is just matching the available range for the instrument. However, note that the lowest note in Steinway D has the same number of tweakable harmonics as any other regular 88 key piano model.

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Re: Piano range of Steinway D and others

DonSmith wrote:

The spectrum profile of the Steinway D shows it has seventeen more notes than the other pianos. The range of harmonics is longer one the Steinway D model than the others, twelve more at the bass end and five more at the high end. If you freeze the range of the others unto the Steinway D they are all shorter in range. Is this the case in real life? All the others have the same range.

What would the others sound like if they had the same range as the Steinway D? Would you be able to tweak more out of them?

Hey Don, didnt find another place to ask . Regarding your Steinway & Sons FXP. Is the Velocity curve meant to be a straight line?
Also, If you dont mind, I like your Steinway FXP, thanks for that, yet seems a bit hard overall with my Kawaii ES-8. Is there a way to pull the entire velocity curve down? ( instead of dragging all dots separately, which might not work very precisely.
Thanks, and sorry If I am off topic..
Best from Berlin, Christian

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Re: Piano range of Steinway D and others

Hey Don, didnt find another place to ask . Regarding your Steinway & Sons FXP. Is the Velocity curve meant to be a straight line?
Also, If you dont mind, I like your Steinway FXP, thanks for that, yet seems a bit hard overall with my Kawaii ES-8. Is there a way to pull the entire velocity curve down? ( instead of dragging all dots separately, which might not work very precisely.
Thanks, and sorry If I am off topic..
Best from Berlin, Christian

Thanks, Christian.
You could reset the velocity curve to a straight line. I just tweaked it to be a little less bright as default [Moderately Slow] and [Slow] velocity curve settings. I just play it by ear. I know everyone doesn't have the pro-version, so it's impossible to know how others adapt the default pianos or if FXP tweaks are frozen and carried over other versions of Pianoteq. It's also hard to know how people set up their systems.

For me, the main thing I want to hear is a strumming string sound without losing the general percussive sound. From around F5 to C7 I like that chalky-ceramic sound. Which I could achieve more on the Steinway and K2 because they have a larger dynamic range. It's that sound I always hear on Beethoven Piano Concerto No.3 in C Minor Op.37.