Topic by michaelhuisman

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Topic: Can we get presets that don't rely on effects?

Level and Delay compensations, limiting is usually on, delay in effects section, one or even two EQs, plus reverb...

If I turn these off, such as the ones affecting the mics, it all starts to "breathe" a bit better, turn the limiter off, that's anti-dynamics... and yeah... let us add our own effects...

in other words, what I'm looking for from Pianoteq is that they give us one preset per model that's their best presentation of the model w/o all the other processing - I know what I'm doing from there.

Any one else ever just wish it were so? that limiter... that just doesn't rhyme with "so much more dynamics" we all claim about our beloved Pianoteq...

just askin'...

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Re: Can we get presets that don't rely on effects?

Hmm I'm a (brand) new user, but I thought they added this stuff to help with the "smoke and mirrors" of the software modeling.

I never actually tried turning everything off (and the manual even says not to turn off the reverb completely) but if it sounds good, then I'm with you.

Pianoteq can just help us with good settings for the "raw" preset.

John B (how long does it take for the signature to start working)

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Re: Can we get presets that don't rely on effects?

I love the Player concept of Pianoteq.  I routinely use the "Parameter Freeze" menu to freeze the reverb (in the "Off" position), as well as the Master Volume (depending upon my mood, at 0 or -2), the Instrument Condition (often at 0.22, which just adds a touch of realism in the irregularity of the unisons, without sounding Out of Tune), and Width = 0.40, which narrows the imaging since my stereo speakers are outboard of my upright piano.

Works well for me.

Last edited by dklein (06-09-2018 01:20)
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Re: Can we get presets that don't rely on effects?

Limiter is there to prevent clipping when you have too many voices going on at once. Definitely enable it, and reduce output volume instead - bump the volume on your main amplifier. This way you retain the dynamics, and limiter still does its job in case sh*t happens.

Reverb is also quite necessary even in close miked presets, it sounds too dead otherwise.

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Re: Can we get presets that don't rely on effects?

Dragon, I think Reverb for close-mic'ed presets is definitely needed with headphones to prevent the "sterile sound" that sounds 'dead',  but in my particular room where my piano and speakers sit, I have plenty of reverb from the room and the upright piano itself, making the added reverb (except some very short-length IR using knock.wav, or similar) sound, well, weird.  Everyone's mileage varies.

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