Topic: U87 vs C414 microphone

Hi

I am a Pianoteq user since a few years and I launch this subject following the article I just published on this page http://modelling-audio-expert.com/piano...omparison/

I hope this will help those of you who are hesitating between these two great models of microphones.

https://soundcloud.com/modelling-audio-...ows-in-you

https://soundcloud.com/modelling-audio-...ows-in-you

https://soundcloud.com/modelling-audio-...ght-sonata

https://soundcloud.com/modelling-audio-...-omni-test

Let me know what you think, and which microphones you prefer to use for your recordings.

Cheers

Mickael

Last edited by Modelling Audio Prod (11-06-2018 08:41)

Re: U87 vs C414 microphone

I don't have ears good enough to say whether a recording is better than another, but I'm a bit curious about your website.
You offer:

website wrote:

– recording*
– editing and mastering (CD and Digital release)
– piano preparation and tuning
– album cover design (with our partner Astrantia Design)

*The recording sessions can be made directly in our recording studio in Strasbourg (France), or you can provide us midi files.

So I am a bit confused, do you own real pianos and Pianoteq?
Piano preparation and tuning is perfomed on customer instruments or this is all in the virtual world?

Just curiosity since I live in Argentina and I don't think I'll be recording anything,
Best regards,
Marcos

Re: U87 vs C414 microphone

Thanks Marcos for your curiosity

My intention on this forum is only to share my experience with Pianoteq, and it would be better to contact me by email directly via our website for any questions about recording services.

Kind regards

Mickael

Last edited by Modelling Audio Prod (29-05-2018 17:41)

Re: U87 vs C414 microphone

marcos daniel wrote:

I don't have ears good enough to say whether a recording is better than another, but I'm a bit curious about your website.
You offer:

website wrote:

– recording*
– editing and mastering (CD and Digital release)
– piano preparation and tuning
– album cover design (with our partner Astrantia Design)

*The recording sessions can be made directly in our recording studio in Strasbourg (France), or you can provide us midi files.

So I am a bit confused, do you own real pianos and Pianoteq?
Piano preparation and tuning is perfomed on customer instruments or this is all in the virtual world?

Just curiosity since I live in Argentina and I don't think I'll be recording anything,
Best regards,
Marcos


from the instruments listed (http://modelling-audio-prod.com/list-of...struments/) and services offered (http://modelling-audio-prod.com/services/) this certainly all seems to be done exclusively with Pianoteq and, while it's fairly obscured, the site does provide the caveat "*These recordings are entirely made with modeled instrument, microphones and convolution reverb technologies" on its article pages, along with other occasional references to modelling...

but since it's all a "Pianoteq-thing" (and so, @Mickael, decidedly falls within your "experience with Pianoteq"), this forum certainly seems like it would be an ideal place to ask these sorts of questions and engage in dialogue for the benefit of all (@Mickael: especially for the sake of any potential "customers")... so why remove discussion from the public light?  i realize that public airing of questions might disturb the illusion of a "real" recording studio etc, but surely transparency here is an asset in your favor?

however, what I want to know, Mickael, is where did you dig-up the IRs for Nagaoka and BR Studio 2?  are they true IRs or did you tweak reverb settings in Pianoteq on top of existing IRs to arrive at an approximation?

Matthieu 7:6

Re: U87 vs C414 microphone

Hi _DJ_

I think that the website’s name already indicates it's about audio productions made with modeled instruments, but indeed we believe that it’s not necessary to specify it on all the pages.
Moreover, Pianoteq is for me a real piano. I don’t make any difference.

I will publish soon a page on our website to answer Marcos’s questions so that it benefits to everybody.

About the reverb technique used in our recordings, we work from the precise acoustic data and measurements of each room.

Thanks for your interest

Mickael

Last edited by Modelling Audio Prod (30-05-2018 21:21)

Re: U87 vs C414 microphone

Does anyone have an opinion about Pianoteq’s U87 and C414?

I would be really glad to have your comments

Re: U87 vs C414 microphone

Modelling Audio Prod wrote:

I will publish soon a page on our website to answer Marcos’s questions so that it benefits to everybody.

http://modelling-audio-prod.com/informa...-services/

Cheers

Re: U87 vs C414 microphone

Very clear,  and very interesting service!