Funky40,
Maybe dials, sliders for this level of control would help on Pianteq's interface - I do like that idea.
Don't want you to miss out on achieving your ambitions tho' Funky40 - it can be done.
You began asking if it's possible to give single keys different notes and the answer is yes.
Don't overlook because initially it felt too hard - what could be better than achieving your dream of your own tuning, right now, yeah?
Don't worry, it's really not as hard as programming.
Notepad, drag-drop, solid, whoah
They are .scl files. They are tiny text files. Low tech, no-shinyTM but you get perfect result, total control, easy.
Files look like this (Ref. http://www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/scl_format.html ).
Here's a fundamental 12 notes per octave one for you (Ref. https://usermanuals.garritan.com/ARIAPl...tuning.htm ).
Copy from the first ! to the last part "2/1" - likewise for other .scl files. Notice, where it says "12" in the equal temp file, and "88" in the bourdelle file? Keep that in mind when making your own files
! equal-midi-basic.scl
!
12 Tone Equal temperament - midi steps
12
!
100.0
200.0
300.0
400.0
500.0
600.0
700.0
800.0
900.0
1000.0
1100.0
2/1
OR here's the bourdelle1.scl file for giving a number to each key on a 88 key keyboard - you can still use if you have 73:
! bourdelle1.scl
!
Compromis Cordier, piano tuning by Jean-Pierre Chainais
88
!
100.1046295
200.209
300.314
400.419
500.523
600.628
700.732
800.837
900.942
1001.046
1101.151
1201.256
1301.360
1401.465
1501.569
1601.674
1701.779
1801.883
1901.988
2002.093
2102.197
2202.302
2302.406
2402.511
2502.616
2602.720
2702.825
2802.930
2903.034
3003.139
3103.244
3203.348
3303.453
3403.557
3503.662
3603.767
3703.871
3803.976
3904.081
4004.185
4104.290
4204.394
4304.499
4404.604
4504.708
4604.813
4704.918
4805.022
4905.127
5005.239
5105.358
5205.484
5305.618
5405.759
5505.907
5606.063
5706.226
5806.396
5906.573
6006.758
6106.950
6207.149
6307.356
6407.570
6507.791
6608.019
6708.255
6808.498
6908.748
7009.005
7109.270
7209.542
7309.821
7410.108
7510.402
7610.703
7711.011
7811.327
7911.650
8011.980
8112.318
8212.662
8313.014
8413.374
8513.740
8614.114
8714.495
8814.884
You can change any of the series of numbers in a note pad, save, drop the file onto the Pianoteq interface to hear your changes.
You'll get the hang of that in minutes.
You'll quickly find which number is your C#Min etc. Just change the numbers to your liking and hear each change in Pianoteq as you go - you can't go wrong to get the result you're after, surely.
Is there a shiny interface in Pianoteq? YES - drag and drop - but this is so simple and frankly, an interface with sliders might help somewhat but it really wouldn't seem ANY easier to me, personally - but then, I grew up before touch screens.
Make your own files, Funky40-CsharpMin-to-low-Gsharp-Whatevs-01.scl
Perhaps it just seems too abstract because it looks too much like programming - or in a pointy-clicky era, it doesn't seem obvious or intuitive.
There can't be anything more intuitive than a number for a note, can there?
Download the archive of scala files:
http://www.huygens-fokker.org/docs/scales.zip
You can:
See and EDIT the scala file "bourdelle1.scl" in the following file archive, save it as your own and tweak in real time as you get to hear the changes you make. This file is like the one above except that instead of giving a tuning for each 12 keys (your octave of course), it gives a fixed value to each of your keys.. you can open it in notepad and find the number that relates to the exact g# key, for example, and give that key the same number as the existing C#m - if that's what you mean to do. Experiment - up to you - is all possible and not too hard to do.
You could get complex and make a spreadsheet with notes and numbers for reference, you also could learn to program for midi using .kbm files, C and infinitely more - but only if you get that urge?
You really only need a basic notepad and the files mentioned to learn/change = win.
If you want more info, here's official info on the basics of scala files:
http://www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/scl_format.html
Again, no hard programming or learning a whole programming language required.
In a file manager, just extract the archive to a folder you choose, then you can simply drag a file/tuning you'd like to hear directly on to the Pianoteq interface.
For more info (once you're hooked! and want to make more accurate numbers check this (may require more time but worth it):
"MIDI Tuning Standard unit: 1/196608 part of an octave
This divides the 12-tET semitone into 214 = 16384 parts which resolution makes sufficiently accurate tuning of electronic instruments possible. See the MIDI Tuning Specification 1.0.
There are other MIDI tuning units which differ per manufacturer, for example Yamaha has models tuned in 1/768 or 1/1024 parts of an octave.
There's also the MIDI Pitch Bend message, which can carry the values -8192 .. 8191, so when the range (which is variable) is the standard range of +/- 200 cents, then the unit is 1/49152 part of an octave or 0.024414 cents."
Ref.
http://www.huygens-fokker.org/docs/measures.html#Ellis
To wrap it up:
It's as easy as editing a few numbers in an existing tiny text file AND it's as complex as you want to take it from there IF your goal is be more in-depth. That's really not required IF your goal is just experimental tunings for now.
There are tunings which might blow your mind in that collection - and your own tweaks and ideas could be expressed with very little time and effort if you just - have a go.
Who knows, your tuning might be added to the official collection, for posterity one day.
(Edited to fix links)
Last edited by Qexl (18-12-2016 04:14)
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