Topic: Advice on getting close to Keyscape Cinematic sound

Hi everyone,

I was hoping someone might have some advice of any preset or FXP that might land me close to this sound from the new Keyscape library.  I really love this sound and realize it is probably based a lot on effects like reverb to achieve it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3WRZKwMnsI&t=380s

The sound starts at 5:30.

Thanks for any help or advice!

Brandon

Last edited by bvaughn0402 (05-10-2016 16:59)

Re: Advice on getting close to Keyscape Cinematic sound

I'd start with, say, D4 Cinematic, go to Effects page, load Taj Mahal, reduce Mix to -30 dB, set pre-delay to 0.1 s, set tail/ER to -9 dB, reduce sympathetic resonance considerably (something like 0.5). Should get you in the ballpark.

Hard work and guts!

Re: Advice on getting close to Keyscape Cinematic sound

http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/file/8kh862ds

Here's another approach - I had been listening to YouTube recordings of David Klavins' open-frame Una Corda piano, so here's my early work on a preset with that kind of a bell-like resonant open sound, based on the Bluethner.  The mid-keyboard and the bass still need a lot of work, but the upper end is getting there.

As I started messing around and changing many different settings, I got a long way away from the Bluethner Daily preset, all while watching different YouTube videos of the David Klavins piano. Unfortunately, the hammer sound on the different videos varies immensely. And that's just the straight piano, not even including the different felt inserts that he has available to put between the hammers and the strings.

In any case, after messing with it for quite a while, I present a small version of the Una Corda that perhaps someone else can tinker with. WDCO, it only has spectral modifications across the whole piano, and I still do not have the ears and the understanding to work on a note by note basis. In any case, it did give me some reason to play with overtones and begin to understand them. Perhaps someone can help me "tune this" and get a more realistic hammer sound, as on the real piano, forte and mezzoforte has some presence to it, similar to that of a regular piano, while played at piano is quite soft and almost bell-like, as if you are hammering on a harp with a soft rubber mallet.

I would love to hear someone else take it and refine it a bit more. Here are some videos from YouTube that have different-sounding pieces played on the Una Corda:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WokTMNj3kI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfHK7_lSY-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTwRTa4BODs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgtD5mZP8AU

- David Klein (most certainly NOT David Klavins)

- David

Re: Advice on getting close to Keyscape Cinematic sound

dklein,

Your Una Corda-like based on Bluether sounds good! Have you done anymore tweaking to it?

Last edited by brooster (29-11-2016 21:32)

Re: Advice on getting close to Keyscape Cinematic sound

Listening from 5:30 on the original video, it sounds to me as though the sustained sound does NOT decay as one would normally expect in a real (or Pianoteq) piano.  Try increasing the Impedance Slider (to the right) to taste.  Increasing soundboard impedance increases the length of sustain.

Cheers,

Joe

Re: Advice on getting close to Keyscape Cinematic sound

no more tweaking done - just bought the NI plugin for the real una corda

- David

Re: Advice on getting close to Keyscape Cinematic sound

no more tweaking done - just bought the NI plugin for the real una corda

- David