Topic: VPC 1 Velocity Curve Preset Pianoteq

I got the VPC1 and I am a bit disapointed relating the preset curve fot pianoteq.
The sound seems very flat, not brilliant and you have to press the keys hardly to get a bit of loudness.

Is that the right pianosound or did I learn my ears wrong?
Everybody here seem get comfort with this curve.

Perhaps I have trained my ears wrong with more loudly curves.

thx for answeres

Jochen

Re: VPC 1 Velocity Curve Preset Pianoteq

Are you aware you can do an (easy) calibration for your own velocity settings using Pianoteq ?

Right under the velocity graph there's a "calibration" button.

Every one has there own feel and touch and one of the advantages (IMO) of MIDI keyboard is that you can set this to your own feel. That, in fairness, might not be desirable for people who also need to use real pianos, but even that can be matched by adjusting the curve to suit your needs.

You can "lock" in that velocity curve using the "preset freeze" window.  Very handy.

I found it takes a few attempts to get a velocity curve that suits your needs.  To my great surprise I ended up using the default after multiple attempts at my own. :-)  YMMV as they say.

There are some downloadable settings that others have made ( see the forum ), but I'd suggest you calibrate yourself.

I suppose you might also need to adjust volume, but I'm presuming you tried that.

P.S. Nice keyboard. :-)

StephenG

Re: VPC 1 Velocity Curve Preset Pianoteq

thx for the hint,

but i know the calibration button. I've done that with my older CDP 130 Casio.
My point is that the curve for pianoteq in the VPC1 should be the expert curve, shouldn't it?
Thats mainly was the reason why I bought this piano and then I was disapointed about the sound.

I like to know how others feel that curve. To me its flat, low noise, not brillant and hard to push the keys
but others here say this curve is perfect, so I am wondering about this.

Jochen

Re: VPC 1 Velocity Curve Preset Pianoteq

joker15342 wrote:

thx for the hint,

but i know the calibration button. I've done that with my older CDP 130 Casio.
My point is that the curve for pianoteq in the VPC1 should be the expert curve, shouldn't it?
Thats mainly was the reason why I bought this piano and then I was disapointed about the sound.

I like to know how others feel that curve. To me its flat, low noise, not brillant and hard to push the keys
but others here say this curve is perfect, so I am wondering about this.

Jochen

There is no single expert opinion as to how a velocity curve should be constructed.  As soon as one curve is published as being "the velocity curve to end all curves," ten more curves will be submitted as "their" end-all curves.  Vladimir Horowitz's velocity curve on a real Steinway D is completely different from Alfred Brendel's and is completely different than Glenn Gould's, as witnessed by the vast differences they each imposed on their technicians to wrest the most "true" sound out of their acoustic instruments.

Personally, my own favorite velocity curve is the stock straight line from 0 to 127.  Everyone's mileage varies when it comes to representing his/her own desired velocity response.

Cheers,

Joe

Re: VPC 1 Velocity Curve Preset Pianoteq

Do not forget the turn on a curve "Note-OFF"

Re: VPC 1 Velocity Curve Preset Pianoteq

yesterday I tried to compare some pianosounds with the VPC1 pianoteq curve.

Bridge ober troebled water
Forrest Gump Suite

and a youtube video with a classic Bach

and I must say The sound of these pianos its the same to my sound.

Probably the long time playing with my curve I used with the casio first
I guess that my ears are calibtated on this.

but I will create my own curve on the VPC1 then...

thx to all
Jochen