Topic: Adapting (readjusting) velocities and volumes

Hi all!

I am a new user of Pianoteq (an eskeptical and positively surprised one) and this is my first post here, I searched the forum before posting and didn't find anything related..

Well, the thing is that I am using a calibrated velocity curve which I called "calib" (works fine on my Yamaha P85) and the playing volume happened to be ok for me at -10dB. So, FINALLY the dynamics and touch feeling I never could achieve with any other sample based piano.

I freezed this two parameters since they work well AS LONG AS I use any patch originally set to "normal linear curve" with a volume of 0dB.

The problem comes when I use some other instrument patches like the "R2 Bark" (among others) with different initial velocity curves (non normal linear curves) and different volume setting (like +3dB).

At this point I feel something is going wrong when I keep playing with my beloved "calibrated velocity curve" and -10dB (both freezed), and neither changing to the original presets of this instrument patches feels like having solved the matter, since depending on what I do I feel either I am hearing it higer than I want or lower than what it's meant to be heard.

The same happens with the velocity curve, the calibrated one works fine for those intrument patches which have got normal linear velocity, whereas changing to the one of the patch will definetly not feel ok.

I wondered whether there's a way to adapt (automatically readjust) own velocity curve and volume to the ones of the different instrument patches..?

Thanks in advance!!

Last edited by davidizquierdo82 (16-02-2015 01:10)
P85>Kawai CA97>Numa XGT>FP90X>LX706
Pianoteq 8 Pro (all instruments) + Organteq 2
i7 4790K W11 64bits + UMC1820 + MTM + DT770 pro X
http://youtube.com/DavidIzquierdoAzzouz

Re: Adapting (readjusting) velocities and volumes

Hey there, davidizquierdo82. I think I raised the issue related to the "normal linear curve" as you called it on this thread:

http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic.php?id=3671

There is no automatic way to deal with this within Pianoteq (yet??). One of the members, Ross, posted a link on that thread to this utility that does the math for us.  Here is the link to his utility:

http://jsbin.com/cukeme/9/

Re: Adapting (readjusting) velocities and volumes

Hi HowardS,

thanks a lot for your response, it really helped a lot knowing there are more people facing the same propblem, maybe Moddart will be aware of it and fix it asap

The program you linked previously is nice but a bit of a hassle to re-create all the curves for the affected patche, and then saving new modified ones with the new settings...

I think a possible solution would be to create a two layer velocity curve, a first one for the controller touch velocity (as if you had transferred this preset internally to a VPC1) and a second one for the original instrument patch velocity. The GUI may look a bit strange but I think it gets around the issue..

However, this still doesn't solve the problem with the volume..

Hope somebody out there will be able to solve it...

Cheers!

P85>Kawai CA97>Numa XGT>FP90X>LX706
Pianoteq 8 Pro (all instruments) + Organteq 2
i7 4790K W11 64bits + UMC1820 + MTM + DT770 pro X
http://youtube.com/DavidIzquierdoAzzouz

Re: Adapting (readjusting) velocities and volumes

You're welcome. Glad it helped in some way.