I like keyboard sound in this video (from 2:10):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1wgaFJ0750
Is it piano? If yes, why it has so soft, "wooden" sound? Is it possible to implement it using Pianoteq?
To me, it looks & sounds like a standard upright una corda pedal, which drops a layer of felt in front of the hammers.
They may have doctored it a bit more, but the percussive sound layer could have been added on top from another source.
EDIT: I bothered to watch the beginning, and it's obvious now that they're live sequencing, so the percussive clicking I was hearing was recorded from the viola in the beginning.
EDIT 2: That does raise the question - Does the Pianoteq U4 model the una corda this way? Or is an extra layer of felt similar enough to the offset hammers in a grand piano's una corda that it doesn't matter?
I think it is a ´prepared piano´, perhaps with something placed on hammers.
It's not prepared piano. It seems to be layered with another sound... or there was a mic very close to the hammers or mechanics, it's picking up a lot of mechanics noise.
The extra mechanical noise is coming from the recording of the viola being plucked and/or the bouncing bow. The loop was recorded in the beginning of the video.
That's my best guess anyways.
To me, it looks & sounds like a standard upright una corda pedal, which drops a layer of felt in front of the hammers.
I think you are right on the sound with just a single remark: you are describing the celeste pedal of an upright. The una corda in the upright usually shifts the action closer to the strings.
EDIT 2: That does raise the question - Does the Pianoteq U4 model the una corda this way? Or is an extra layer of felt similar enough to the offset hammers in a grand piano's una corda that it doesn't matter?
Yes, among the different pedals you can choose there is a celeste pedal, which is crucial for an upright sound. I was able to set up mines just like they appear on my U3: una corda, central celeste (which also has a switch to fix his position) and damper pedal.
what is the mystery? There the pratice pedal (mute pedal) to down and she gently plays, that's all.
Thanks to all. I simply didn't know about existence of such pedal. With the pedal, increased hammer noise, decreased hammers hardness, increased 1st overtone I have something like piano on the video!
I tried to search "celesta pedal", "practice pedal" and "mute pedal" and found nothing about how it realized, not found even pictures... Maybe I unlearned to use google?
UPD. At 2:44 I see yellow layer between all strings and hammers. He seems prepared the piano, not just pedal use.
UPD. I just noticed, that celesta pedal was not recorded in the demo above... I pressed it by mouse in the user interface. Why pianoteq ignores pedal that pressed in such way when recording?
I tried to search "celesta pedal", "practice pedal" and "mute pedal" and found nothing about how it realized, not found even pictures... Maybe I unlearned to use google?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_pedals#Other_pedals
Or simply page 39 of pianoteq manual.
UPD. At 2:44 I see yellow layer between all strings and hammers. He seems prepared the piano, not just pedal use.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...DoQMygWMBY
That's the only decent image I could find of a celeste felt bar in a quick search. Probably on YouTube there are videos showing it better.
UPD. I just noticed, that celesta pedal was not recorded in the demo above... I pressed it by mouse in the user interface. Why pianoteq ignores pedal that pressed in such way when recording?
Use midi CC instead.
what is the mystery? There the pratice pedal (mute pedal) to down and she gently plays, that's all.
You are exactly correct: The practice pedal's (referring to middle pedal in many newer upright pianos) layer of felt has been engaged. It is clearly visible on the piano, some 50 seconds into the video.
Cheers,
Joe
It is clearly visible on the piano, some 50 seconds into the video.
Yes! I see it! Thanks.
Use midi CC instead.
I have single pedal on my digital piano and it's assigned to sustain and I don't want lose it. When I press key by mouse on the virtual keyboard -- it recorded! But pedals does not...
At 2:45 on the video, it looks like there's some material placed between the hammers and the strings of the piano.
There is a scent of a future request in the air...
Option to place variable materials between hammers and strings.
At 2:45 on the video, it looks like there's some material placed between the hammers and the strings of the piano.
