I love pianoteq, and it sounds fantastic....but it always seems to be missing something that sample libraries have to them. Is it just because of different mic positioning/settings that need to be tweaked?
And if so, is there a setting/preset that can give the same kind of feel?
Reference: http://www.imperfectsamples.com/website...end_P1.mp3
Yes, the Imperfect Samples pianos sound really good but you can't play all music with them.
And you are right, the sound is good because the mic positioning/settings is very good, I think better than some other sampled pianos of great name.
In theory you can find the same combination of mic/positionning and with the cursor "condition" you can make Pianoteq as Imperfect samples pianos... also detuned.
I also like that libraries..
Some time ago, inspired by that, I did this fxp based on M3 grand.
But not sure how it will work now in version 5; maybe with some tweaking..
Actually it became the intro of a trance song of mine
There are many ways to try adjust pianoteq to your taste, and it can be very complex in version 5.
Mic position, hammer hardness, impedance, strike point, mic position, mic types, and many more... You can try all that.
Sure the best sampled pianos still have a little advantage in tone (a little bit more natural here and there) but with v5 this advantage of samplers was considerable reduced. For most people used to play in real grands, the superior harmonics of pianoteq make the difference.
That's a nice sound. I particularly like the bass and midrange. My superficial impression about what makes it appealing is that the close mics capture the air vibrations as they move back and forth inside the cabinet, but that is only a guess. I'm also hearing few upper partials.
What make is the piano?
What make is the piano?
You can take a look around here, Jake: http://www.imperfectsamples.com/ (I guess you already knew that, but anyway).
Before I tried Pianoteq I had bought their "Braunschweig upright", whose strength also was in the lines of what you describe, the bass was fine there too. The mp3 njaremko linked to is a demo from the imperfect samples Steinway grand.
(1908 Walnut concert grand, it says). One can listen to further demos there, just to get an impression.
Once I exchanged a few mails with the man, and he stressed that those "imperfections" can make a piano sound great.
Since I tried pianoteq, I did not buy other pianos of them, but yes, this sound is very nice too. Now how to get similar sounds with our beloved pianoteq ...
Perhaps with this setting :
it sounds amazing...it's warm and so realistic! I like how the high notes sound, it's very emotional....Ididn't know imperfect samples but I'm going to check it out! Thanks for sharing.
Perhaps with this setting :
Interesting. Will you share the fxp?
Of course, but I want to work the sound yet a little bit before
A midi of that song would be fantastic as well haha
I love pianoteq, and it sounds fantastic....but it always seems to be missing something that sample libraries have to them. Is it just because of different mic positioning/settings that need to be tweaked?
And if so, is there a setting/preset that can give the same kind of feel?
Reference: http://www.imperfectsamples.com/website...end_P1.mp3
Hi Njaremko
A nice soft sound. The sound is heavy and has a lot of room-noise. While its a nice sound and I can see its place in certain compositions, its not what I generally hear when listening to and acoustic piano.
Depending on which version of Pianoteq you have, I think you could get a similar sound. For a softer sound try:
D4 Daily Practice
VOICING: Piano 25
OUTPUT: Dynamics 65dB
DESIGN: Impedance 0.90 ; Duplex scale 0.11
EFFECTS: Delay: Mix 12% ; Delay 95ms ; Feedback 15% ; Tone 0.
EFFECTS: Reverb (Small Hall) ; Mix +10.00 dB ; Duration 0.25 ; Room size 42m ; Tone 0 ; Pre-delay 0.011.
Of course, but I want to work the sound yet a little bit before
Thank you. Sounds indeed very interesting! In fact I now listened to all the demos of the "Walnut" grand, and they are indeed amazing. As much as I like pianoteq, I'll take the dust from my imperfectsamples Braunschweig upright just for comparison thanks to this thread. (I had uninstalled all of my sample pianos of yore.) Will try DonSmith's settings now.
I never believe a sampler piano library of such out tune piano would be created:
Lylo wrote:Perhaps with this setting :
Interesting. Will you share the fxp?
Hello,
I tried to making a best sound but the result is totally different of the Walnut IS, I leave the idea because I don't have the time for this, you can try, here is the links for the fxp :