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Topic: Definitely a Live Performance ... but of what?

PT5 or Freshly Tuned Decent Grand Piano

Hello All,

Following the cue from Mr. ReBased's forum question, I have uploaded to Dropbox a live performance by Yours Truly of Ernesto LeCuona's Gitinerias (The Gypsies) for you to decide whether it was performed on a decent grand piano that I had just tuned or PT5.  In order to even the scale, I added some reverb to the audio, so as to blur the difference between a recording of the acoustic piano and Pianoteq.

Before making your decision, take note of breathing sounds (note to self: trim nose hairs before recording live), of the microphones picking up individual strings' and hammers' sounds.  Again, I did add some subsequent reverb to the sound, so be careful how you vote.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/acuq2l36imobs...Reverb.wav

Reply by skip

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Re: Definitely a Live Performance ... but of what?

Pianoteq, but it sounds impressive. The reason I voted for Pianoteq is because it sounds dry and muffled, despite the fact that it has a decent amount of reverb. I am not 100% confident in my vote though.

Greg.

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Re: Definitely a Live Performance ... but of what?

Wonderful performance here!
But I have to agree with Greg, it seems Pianoteq to my ears; probably D4. Tomorrow I'll check in the studio monitors but headphones are telling me so..
I'm missing what I hear in the other example (real piano imo) but, again, I hope to be wrong

Cheers

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC4289A53FE3A4807

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Re: Definitely a Live Performance ... but of what?

I don't particular care whether I'm right or wrong, because the sound is not the kind of sound that I love.  If it is a real piano (and I think it COULD be), the sound does not make me want to keep listening. 

Btw, digital piano demos have been impressing me more than sample library demos of late. E.g, I think the RD-800 blows the new Garritan CFX out of the water.

Greg.

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Re: Definitely a Live Performance ... but of what?

Interesting, but I feel it's pianoteq because the performance touchs some few little weak points (very few and discreet now with v5) that are for example some sucessive ff chords in some Key ranges.

I supose even when pianote convince 95% of people, they will keep working until don't remain any detectable aspect.

Anyway the superior living sound and highly detailed customization and even mic types, make pianoteq superior.

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Re: Definitely a Live Performance ... but of what?

Pianoteq , really awesome but still recognizable..... (or not)

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Re: Definitely a Live Performance ... but of what?

I vote for pianoteq too. I think I recognize the Blüthner...great playing as usual...

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Re: Definitely a Live Performance ... but of what?

Real, more probably, since there seems to be blooming on high chords, and while Pianoteq provides for it, default setting's nil, so, does it often get used?

But maybe a tuner does use it, if he thinks some blooming's universal with reals.

Nice light touch with bounce.

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Re: Definitely a Live Performance ... but of what?

Pianoteq.
It has the typical "ringing" artefact in the upper range.