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Topic: Microphone Direction

I'm having a lot of fun playing around with the new microphone system (as well as the new pianos, of course) however I started to notice something. The ability to pitch the microphone for any mic type (that isn't omni) doesn't seem to make a difference for a lot of the instruments. In fact, changing out a microphone doesn't make a difference, regardless of its pickup pattern (they all sound like omni's).

I've noticed this for all of the KIViR collection, the Bells, C1, M1, C2, C3, M3, and the K1. I don't own any optional instruments, but all of the demos act the same as well (except for the YC5, Bluthner, U4, and the Kremsegg Collections).

So basically only the v5 (and the D4v4 oddly) instruments take advantage of this new mic modeling? Is this because of the new modeling for the surrounding air? And I suppose the update to the KIViR will have this new mic modeling?

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Re: Microphone Direction

violoncellemuse wrote:

So basically only the v5 (and the D4v4 oddly) instruments take advantage of this new mic modeling? Is this because of the new modeling for the surrounding air? And I suppose the update to the KIViR will have this new mic modeling?

The answers to your three questions are yes, yes and yes.

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Re: Microphone Direction

Makes sense!

Are the non-acoustic instruments ever going to gain this capability in the future?

Looking forward to the KIViR update!

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Re: Microphone Direction

violoncellemuse wrote:

Are the non-acoustic instruments ever going to gain this capability in the future?

They already do in v5: the 3 electric pianos, when used with "Room mic" output, benefit also from the new microphones (same for the chromatic percussions.)

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Re: Microphone Direction

Hi guys, (any female Pianoteq fans here?)

I am a piano player but don't know much about microphones and recording techniques. Pianoteq has a lot of interesting (I guess) features in this field that I don't quite know how to use in a predictable way.

Can someone recommend online articles or websites that I could read to start learning more about this subject?

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Re: Microphone Direction

Philippe Guillaume wrote:
violoncellemuse wrote:

Are the non-acoustic instruments ever going to gain this capability in the future?

They already do in v5: the 3 electric pianos, when used with "Room mic" output, benefit also from the new microphones (same for the chromatic percussions.)

Ah, I must've missed that. So only legacy instruments miss out on that.

m.tarenskeen wrote:

Hi guys, (any female Pianoteq fans here?)
I am a piano player but don't know much about microphones and recording techniques. Pianoteq has a lot of interesting (I guess) features in this field that I don't quite know how to use in a predictable way.
Can someone recommend online articles or websites that I could read to start learning more about this subject?

In the past I've stumbled upon this article, for pianos specifically:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may99/a...cpiano.htm

Here's a good description of the different kinds of mics, specifically dealing with the pickup patterns (bi-directional aka figure-8):

http://www.heilsound.com/pro/mic-primer/pickup-patterns

Here's some explanations with sound demos for 10 different miking techniques. The sound source is an acoustic guitar, but it can apply with any instrument (or any THING!):

http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowled...tic-Guitar

Hope this helps a bit! Let me know if you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer them.

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Re: Microphone Direction

thanks for the links!

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