The J.B. Streicher

I like it a lot, too. In fact all the  Kremsegg instruments are exceptional and a joy to play. I wish I knew more about the lesser well known makers. Tried looking online for some information about them but had little luck.

What a difference the mics can make in v. 5. The sound is quite lovely here with lots of presence. Is the midi file mislabeled? The one you posted is Chopin's E major Etude from Op. 10.

What I like best about the Streicher and the other new historical instruments is how clear and balanced the lowest registers are. This clarity makes all the difference when playing music from their eras.

Thanks for posting this!

Robert

The Kremsegg colletion pianos sounds very natural, with a good deal of woodness. The so much requested woodnesss  There it is !

And we also heard some very interesting metalic, not synthetic metalic but the vintage natural sounding metalic feeling from such old instruments.

The kIvIr instruments will probably get great after get reworked, like YC5 and D4 after refurbishing.

I would like to know if the actual website mp3 for Walter piano, for example, it's a new recording from V5.

By the way, nice performance Jake.

No, all current KIViR recordings on the Pianoteq site are old recordings (the pianoteq version used for the recording is mentioned for each demo, for example "recorded with Pianoteq 3").

We are currently working hard on rebuilding the KIViR instruments from ground, and the beta tests will soon start.

Agreed - I like that metallic quality that you refer to, and I want to hear more of it in the normal/modern piano sounds too.  I don't mean very bright and harsh - just a velvety smooth kind of metallic sound.  (although I do like a very aggressive forte sound) 

Greg.

There is no real overlap. The seemingly overlapping Pleyel, Erard and Bechstein are completely different instruments, the Kremsegg Erard and Pleyel are pianofortes, not grand pianos. The Kremsegg C. Bechstein is a marvelous instrument in my opinion, my favorite in fact, and I don't think the improved KIViR Bechstein will match it, but it will surely be vastly better...we'll see.

The Kremsegg Bechstein and Streicher are real masterpieces of virtual reconstruction I find...

EDIT: Oooops!  Philippe and I answered simultaneously.... a good thing we agree

Thanks to both of you
Sounds like a win-win situation... no compromise needed for the KIViR and we also have a broader selection of the instruments with the Kremsegg - great news!

Im very tempted with Kremsegg 2 , the Bechstein sounds fantastic!
(hmm, now going to have to go try the Streicher)

Still can't upload fxp's to the site. So here are the mic settings in the Streicher for the Chopin Etude in E major. (Click to enlarge.)

Both mics are changed to R84's.
Only mic 1 was moved. Mic 2 stays in the same position as in the default J.B Streicher Close Mic preset.
Obviously, I'm open to suggestions for getting a better stereo image. No time right now to experiment with the delay and amp settings on the mic page.

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I've also really fallen for this piano. I have so far only been able to afford the Kremsegg 1 collection, but the J.B. Streicher was worth the cost alone. I've recently taken up the task of learning all of Bach's sinfonias (3-part inventions), and it has been a real pleasure to play them on this instrument. I'm not sure why, but the presence seems much more realistic to me (actually, all the Kremsegg pianos seem more realistic). I don't really tweak anything; just a few small adjustments to binaural mode, a change to well-tempered tuning and a few notches down on the condition slider… The responsiveness makes me feel like I actually have a real piano in front of me. I have never achieved this with the D4 or Bluethner—not sure why?

I've read that Brahms used to love this piano manufacturer. Some interesting notes on that can be found here: http://scholarship.claremont.edu/cgi/vi...ontext=ppr